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De-Googling my phone

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Re: De-Googling my phone

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Post by ForHackernews »

DoingIsLearning wrote: post #70
John_KZ wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is dead. Someone forked it. I'm sorry but I can't trust some random team with almost zero funding to write my everyday os. Ubuntu phone died when Canonical dropped it. Same for Mozilla. It's a shame and kind of bizarre that Google can go on without any competition, but without the hardware manufacturers cooperating this isn't working out. We need open hardware for this to work.

> Same for Mozzila. I'm out of the loop, what happened with Mozilla?

S/he means the pre-Firefox Mozilla browser suite that was abandoned https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Application_Suite

Re: De-Googling my phone

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Post by maccard »

greenhouse_gas wrote: post #36
psergeant wrote: post #34

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Missing option: Apple iPhone. Just works, aggressive security team.

Downside: 1. Do you really know what your apps are doing? You can't compile from source. 2. You may only use apps Apple approves. So no Firefox for you.

so you know what all the google play services are doing on your phone? You can compile apps from source and put them on your own phone, you just cant distribute your own compiled apps without a paid developer account.

Re: De-Googling my phone

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Post by maccard »

lern_too_spel wrote: post #63
tbolt wrote: post #11

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iOS Safari

That's your problem. iOS Webkit has buggy scrolling behavior if you use fixed position elements or iframes. Unfortunately, Apple won't allow non-buggy browsers on their platform, so there's nothing you can do about it.

It’s our problem that developers feel the need to override the default scrolling behaviour which works perfectly across all devices on all platforms?

Re: De-Googling my phone

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Post by nefariousoctopi »

_o_ wrote: post #66

Maybe I can help, I have written this in google context, but it is general privacy enabled configuration. This is what I am using: https://lineage.microg.org/ (get rid of google play (and save 1/3 of battery)) apps have a dependancies to google framework and just not having it breaks lots of stuff (this is google true vendor lock-in). Microg is opensource reimplementation of it, but it needs patches into android to f…

Nice summary, thanks. Do you think, that there is a chance to get Google Hangouts running with microG? It's required by my current employer unfortunately.

Re: De-Googling my phone

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Post by Qwertie »

dublinben wrote: post #26
deepbreath wrote: post #8

I think one of the things I'd really miss is Google Maps. The directions are really good, and the web app is unusably slow

If you don't need real-time traffic data, OsmAnd or Maps.me are both pretty good replacements.

The voice directions on OsmAnd is pretty horrid. It often doesn't say anything where there is an important turn and hardly ever says the street name to turn on to. I suspect it gets really confused by the little turning lanes on the edge of intersections which usually have no data in OSM as they aren't a real road.

If you have your phone in a dock with the screen on it's usable. Also the search is pretty bad and forget looking up most stores by name.

Re: De-Googling my phone

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Post by obrajesse »

evjim wrote: post #57

I used k9mail for awhile until I realized it had sent every temporary draft of an email as I revised something and changed between apps. Was super embarrassing. Hard to trust it now even though the ui seemed great.

Original author of K-9 here. I haven’t been involved in the project for some time, but my recollection is that any time we investigated this issue, we found that the issue was GMail displaying multiple drafts to the sender as having been sent, not actually sending the drafts via SMTP.

(That’s what the bug reference in a reply to this comment is about)

Re: De-Googling my phone

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Post by letsgetphysITal »

Lurkars wrote: post #54

I run a similiar setup for almost 1,5 years. LineageOS 14.1 with f-droid "store"; syncing contacts and calendar with davdroid over nextcloud; also switched search to duckduckgo (on desktop, too) and I really don't miss anything. Another advantage of missing Google play services on my now 5 year old phone is, that the power last two times longer than before. A google service free phone is absolutely usable in my opini…

How do you find it when communicating with people who don't share your ethos, say those heavily invested in Whatsapp, or another platform to which there is no F/OSS compatible client.

Re: De-Googling my phone

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Post by letsgetphysITal »

lern_too_spel wrote: post #63
tbolt wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

iOS Safari

That's your problem. iOS Webkit has buggy scrolling behavior if you use fixed position elements or iframes. Unfortunately, Apple won't allow non-buggy browsers on their platform, so there's nothing you can do about it.

No it's not my problem. I just won't visit your site.

It's most definitely your problem.

Re: De-Googling my phone

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Post by Aissen »

maccard wrote: post #82
greenhouse_gas wrote: post #36

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Downside: 1. Do you really know what your apps are doing? You can't compile from source. 2. You may only use apps Apple approves. So no Firefox for you.

so you know what all the google play services are doing on your phone? You can compile apps from source and put them on your own phone, you just cant distribute your own compiled apps without a paid developer account.

I think you didn't read the article. People are talking of devices without Play Services or Play Store.
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