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Everest: A lightweight REST API client written in JavaFX

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Re: Everest: A lightweight REST API client written in JavaFX

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I don't mean to knock this project because it looks interesting and I wish the developer all the best. But, why does every damn project announced have to be "lightweight"? Even the ones that are definitely not light anything.

It's lightweight compared to the other options because all the other options are Electron based.

Re: Everest: A lightweight REST API client written in JavaFX

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> It just means that those complaints are not very serious. If people like software, they'll use it. Or rather, if people have no other options, they'll use whatever they are given. Besides, it's not very serious if user adoption is the criterion -- as opposed to the possibility of a better computing environment.

> Or rather, if people have no other options, they'll use whatever they are given. I have a simple example: Discord. It's a popular voice conference application used by many gamers. I played WoW for many years and I saw voice software gamers used. It was Ventrillo, it was Raid Call, it was Team Speak. They are native programs. Discord is very recent player but it completely disrupted this ecosystem. In few years ever…

It helps that Discord is amazingly fast and responsive and doesn’t “feel” heavy.

Re: Everest: A lightweight REST API client written in JavaFX

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I always laughing when I'm thinking about it. A lot of tech people complained about Java being resource-hungry. Just to get another more resource-hungry technology. It just means that those complaints are not very serious. If people like software, they'll use it.

Those people people were complaining about it 10 years ago. In those times I remember that you could recognize a Java desktop application because you could count the seconds that it would take for a menu to open after a click. While the current batch of Electron apps use lot of memory/cpu/battery, they usually fare _much_ better in interactivity, which is what often drives away a user.

> count the seconds that it would take for a menu to open after a click

if that's really the case, then it was the application writer's fault, as java can be made just as responsive, if not more so, than electron. The GC can be tuned far better tha javascript!

Re: Everest: A lightweight REST API client written in JavaFX

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I always laughing when I'm thinking about it. A lot of tech people complained about Java being resource-hungry. Just to get another more resource-hungry technology. It just means that those complaints are not very serious. If people like software, they'll use it.

Those people people were complaining about it 10 years ago. In those times I remember that you could recognize a Java desktop application because you could count the seconds that it would take for a menu to open after a click. While the current batch of Electron apps use lot of memory/cpu/battery, they usually fare _much_ better in interactivity, which is what often drives away a user.

The people that cared about their users already had the option to AOT compile those Java applications, or actually write them properly.

Many Java applications got bad reputation because no one bothered to learn how to use Swing properly and were doing everything on the UI thread.

Re: Everest: A lightweight REST API client written in JavaFX

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JavaFX was released nine years ago. V edit: yep my reading comprehension is not on point today

I can't believe JavaFX is still alive, it's been years since Silverlight and Flash died.

JavaFX is not a browser plugin tech.

Re: Everest: A lightweight REST API client written in JavaFX

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JavaFX was released nine years ago. V edit: yep my reading comprehension is not on point today

I can't believe JavaFX is still alive, it's been years since Silverlight and Flash died.

Weren't Silverlight and Flash closer to Java Applets? Those are as far as I can tell also dead.
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