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How salad became a major source of food poisoning in the US

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Re: How salad became a major source of food poisoning in the US

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That’s it - I’m going back to outsourcing all of my leafy greens consumption. I’ll let the cattle and swine eat it for me, then I’ll eat them!

Smart move, indeed. A minor chance of contact with E.Coli seems more dangerous than documented certain heart disease, cancer, and wait for it.. more E.Coli!

Re: How salad became a major source of food poisoning in the US

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Not mentioned is that organic farming doesn't allow irradiation which would kill e-coli. Everybody looks for organic foods thinking they are better but the truth is organic doesn't mean either.

So this is the logo used to show that food is irradiated: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0c/Radura_intern... This is why I hate big-food. They use any and all opportunities to mislead about what truly is going on.

Should food grown with natural fertilizer say "Created with feces!" On the package?

Similarly, someone might not know what canola is - they may know it by the name rape. And some people avoid it - maybe the package should say "Warning! Rape oil."

Certainly that's additional truthful information, but it's also more misleading, not less.

Sinilarly, because the average person (maybe including yourself, judging by your complaint) does not know how nuclear physics works, a clearer statement on packaging would actually cause more people to believe incorrect things.

Re: How salad became a major source of food poisoning in the US

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> Marler also blames Americans’ love of convenience for the problem. “Mass-produced chopped, bagged lettuce that gets shipped around the US amplifies the risk of poisoning,” he said. > Instead of shipping heads of lettuce or large carrot sticks that people wash, we chop them and mix them up in processing, then package them in plastic bags. In that process, Marler said, “The bacteria has a chance to grow. And a lot of…

That's something I think about when buying mushrooms as well; there's the chopped mushrooms, and then there's the whole mushrooms, and the former always looks kind of worse for ware so to speak, as if the chopping process transmits bacteria from the blades to the mushrooms. I buy the whole mushrooms for that reason and simply because they're cheaper.

It's less bacteria and more general oxidation. They're not more dangerous, just less pretty (also likely less nutritious since many nutrients are destroyed by oxidation)

Re: How salad became a major source of food poisoning in the US

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> Leafy vegetables were also the second most common cause of food poisoning-related hospitalizations. I never quite got to like lettuce. I don't know why people like it. It just doesn't have much taste, its leaves are too big, so have to shove them in awkwardly. I'd rather have a salad with chopped ripe tomatoes, onions / chives, cucumbers, cabbage, etc. Even with those, I often wonder if people don't eat more veggie…

Have you tried fresh spinach instead of lettuce in your salad? I like it a lot, it tastes better. There are also other greens, rocket is quite popular in Europe. We also eat ramsoms in the spring - it tastes like garlic but has a fainter taste without the garlic stink.

Spinach isn't much better[1].

[1] https://www.medicaldaily.com/e-coli-contamination-found-7-sp...

Re: How salad became a major source of food poisoning in the US

#66

That’s it - I’m going back to outsourcing all of my leafy greens consumption. I’ll let the cattle and swine eat it for me, then I’ll eat them!

Smart move, indeed. A minor chance of contact with E.Coli seems more dangerous than documented certain heart disease, cancer, and wait for it.. more E.Coli!

If you read the article, there's a bigger chance of getting E. Coli from greens...

Also, I believe that was a joke.

Re: How salad became a major source of food poisoning in the US

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post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or just cook your leafy vegetables so both risks are reduced.

I remember living in China for an extended period of time and never seeing raw vegetables as part of a meal; locals I spoke with found the very concept unsanitary. It's unfortunate that some are advocating just abandoning chapters of our local cuisine as being no longer viable in our era. I'd rather we more strongly enforce regulations so we can hold onto our salads.

China has a long history of using human waste as fertilizer on fields, so only eating cooked vegetables was good hygiene.

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/green_room/...

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