Elon has always seemed to have the attitude of "not everyone should invest in this stock". I find this refreshing. God forbid a CEO do anything except try to drive the share price as high as humanly possible. I don't know if this carries the same weight in a public company, but setting expectations with investors is super important in a startup and prevents a ton of wasted time wrangling investors who don't get the t…
Actually as a CEO he has a fiduciary duty to maximise shareholder value.
Tesla Plunges After a Conference Call
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#142“how well can I infer you’re doing so I make sure I make more money or lose less money in the next 6 months?” Over and over and over...
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#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah I concur. The kind of numbers they're talking about are no joke. Investors immediately responded to Elon's hubris in kind by severely punishing the stock. Seems the joke is on Musk.
How did you figure out that the reason the stock fell was this particular one? (Edit: "Elon's hubris" in particular) Stock programs have all kinds of explanations they give out as to why a stock moves. Usually, it's a guess.
https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/iYhgfoDa6lZ...
Correlation =/= causation. But... its reasonable to see the connection here.
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#144Elon has always seemed to have the attitude of "not everyone should invest in this stock". I find this refreshing. God forbid a CEO do anything except try to drive the share price as high as humanly possible. I don't know if this carries the same weight in a public company, but setting expectations with investors is super important in a startup and prevents a ton of wasted time wrangling investors who don't get the t…
Actually as a CEO he has a fiduciary duty to maximise shareholder value.
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#145Earlier quoted context omitted.
For the sake of society, I hope Musk succeeds. We've spent too much time as a culture celebrating fairly useless achievements and being unwilling to dare to do the things that will truly take us forward.
The important part of Musk's plan has already succeeded. He made electric cars cool and competitive. If Tesla folds tomorrow, there will still be a large market for electric cars, and multiple other companies serving that. Depending on your needs, that has arguably already happened. While Tesla is still the "coolest" brand of car, there are better/cheaper electric cars from many non-Tesla companies already widely ava…
No, there are a very small handful of cheaper electric cars that may be subjectively better for some uses but worse for many others. Bolt, i3, Leaf - that's about it for mass-produced cars being bought in any volume, and the manufactureres are taking a bath on them.
GM is reportedly losing ~$7,500 for each Bolt they sell, how long do you think that would go on if Tesla were to disappear overnight?
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#146Elon has always seemed to have the attitude of "not everyone should invest in this stock". I find this refreshing. God forbid a CEO do anything except try to drive the share price as high as humanly possible. I don't know if this carries the same weight in a public company, but setting expectations with investors is super important in a startup and prevents a ton of wasted time wrangling investors who don't get the t…
Actually as a CEO he has a fiduciary duty to maximise shareholder value.
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#147I for one completely defend him. It must be excruciating getting the self serving type of questions that all boil down to: “how well can I infer you’re doing so I make sure I make more money or lose less money in the next 6 months?” Over and over and over...
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#148Musk literally said to an investor "Please sell our stock and don't buy it.". Transcript : https://seekingalpha.com/article/4169027-tesla-tsla-q1-2018-...
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#149Earlier quoted context omitted.
For the sake of society, I hope Musk succeeds. We've spent too much time as a culture celebrating fairly useless achievements and being unwilling to dare to do the things that will truly take us forward.
Its inspiring to see him but it's also ridiculous that Elon Musk is the one pushing the space and auto industries forward. I really hope he succeeds, but it is just stupid that our hopes for scientific and technological advancement have shifted to the private sector. The private sector has historically been the one that had sane and logical business practices minimizing risk, while government had the funding necessar…
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#150I was on this call. It was extremely cringey/embarrassing to hear Elon dismiss valid questions. At the same time, it was fantastic to see a young, smart, retail investor (Gali from Hyperchange) get to ask so many questions directly to the leadership team. I thought before the call that Gali would get to ask only one question, like the other analysts. He was able to ask almost 10! It was surreal. I was left feeling th…
Disagree about it being embarrassing and cringey. I appreciate his no-bs and no-fluff candor. Elon called out the press for writing misleading articles to generate clicks. He went as far as calling it irresponsible and dangerous. He also called out day-traders, saying of you can't handle volatility then sell your stock. "I am not here to convince you to buy Tesla stock." You can listen to the call at https://edge.med…