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NASA completes full-power tests of small, portable nuclear reactor

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Re: NASA completes full-power tests of small, portable nuclear reactor

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So... Are plans available anywhere?

Umm. . . it probably wouldn't be cost effective for you: the NRC is pretty brutal in it's regulations. I'm very gun-ho on nuclear power, but that is one bureaucracy I don't mind charging ~$4-500/hr for people to review submitted designs for approval and then painfully inspecting operating plants.

Re: NASA completes full-power tests of small, portable nuclear reactor

#42

So... Are plans available anywhere?

Umm. . . it probably wouldn't be cost effective for you: the NRC is pretty brutal in it's regulations. I'm very gun-ho on nuclear power, but that is one bureaucracy I don't mind charging ~$4-500/hr for people to review submitted designs for approval and then painfully inspecting operating plants.

I would still like to look at the plans (though it's charming you thought I might try to build it...)

Re: NASA completes full-power tests of small, portable nuclear reactor

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Yes they are. An ideal stirling engine has the Carnot level efficiency, i.e. maximum theoretical efficiency for a heat engine. https://blog.mide.com/thermodynamic-theory-of-the-ideal-stir...

Except the ideal one doesn't exist and multistage stream turbines are more efficient in practice.

And more reliable too. The Stirling does have one huge advantage which is that it is entirely self contained.

Re: NASA completes full-power tests of small, portable nuclear reactor

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Some background on this: NASA deep space missions have historically used radioisotope thermal generators powered by the decay of the exotic plutonium isotope Pu-238. This isotope has a good balance of lifetime (87.7 year half life) and specific energy (0.5 watts/gram). It is non-fissile -- no risk of criticality. It also decays solely by alpha emission, so there are no problems with shielding the rest of the systems from e.g. gamma or neutron radiation.

American plutonium 238 was formerly produced using Savannah River Site reactors that primarily produced materials for nuclear weapons. With the retirement of those reactors in 1988, and the American nuclear weapons program going to maintenance mode, NASA lost the side-benefit of Pu-238 production using the weapons infrastructure. Deep space missions requiring RTGs had to subsist off of historical Pu-238 stockpiles and additional material purchased from Russia. But the Russian supply has run out too now -- apparently they aren't producing more of it either.

American plutonium 238 production efforts resumed in 2013:

http://www.spacesafetymagazine.com/aerospace-engineering/nuc...

With NASA now paying the full cost, including fixed startup costs, Pu-238 is extraordinarily expensive:

NASA and DOE have estimated the rebooting will cost between $75 million and $90 million over five years. According to NASA officials, the agency expects to have 1.5 to 2 kilograms produced per year, starting 2018.

The high cost and limited supplies of Pu-238 have spurred the search for alternatives to Pu-238 RTGs. A few years ago I remember reading that the European Space Agency was going to try to design its own RTGs using the less powerful but more abundant americium 241 instead of plutonium 238. But a quick search just now doesn't show any concrete development effort.

This Kilopower reactor is an alternative to RTGs for some mission profiles -- in fact offers more power than RTGs and uses cheaper nuclear materials. (Highly enriched U-235 isn't cheap in an absolute sense, but it's far less expensive than Pu-238. And the security of supply is effectively backstopped by its use in reactors for the US Navy.) It can offer ample power for very deep space missions at a cost significantly less than using years' worth of Pu-238 production.

Improved photovoltaic cells have also enabled missions further from the Sun than they could have supported in 1988. The Juno mission, which entered Jupiter orbit in 2016, relies on PV instead of RTGs. It seems plausible that further evolution will eventually push PV's reach out to Saturn missions. But PV is not currently plausible for missions beyond Jupiter, and it is reliant on slowly-evolving battery technology for surface missions on Mars. Martian missions using PV also face significant problems from cell-obscuring dust. This reactor seems too large to be conveniently integrated in a Martian rover, but enabling non-surface missions to avoid Pu-238 use may mean more can be reserved for future rovers akin to the RTG-powered Curiosity.

Re: NASA completes full-power tests of small, portable nuclear reactor

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For those curious, this uses a nuclear reactor to power a Stirling engine.Stirling engines are a good choice because there is no mass transfer to create the work (i.e. no fuel needed, just heat). It only needs a temperature differential and sealed gas/liquid to work. I highly recommend to read more about Stirling engines since they are of one the most efficient form of work generation with just a temperature differen…

Stirling engines are not efficient. Using that heat to make steam to turn a turbine is much more efficient. But it would be harder to make that portable.

Turbines are only efficient at large size (see failed gas turbine cars), while Stirling engines are very dependent on construction details for efficiency.

Re: NASA completes full-power tests of small, portable nuclear reactor

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I wonder how safe these are. Could I get one in my basement and stop paying nstar for the rest of my life? Would my neighbors complain much?

They are not safe. They lack their own biological shield, and thus require the core section to be buried underground, as can be seen in various demo images. Even then, I suspect you wouldn't want to be too close while operating. They also lack other safety systems a commercial nuclear power station reactor has, having only a single control rod. This makes sense for an extraterrestrial reactor, as transporting mass to Mars is very expensive.

Re: NASA completes full-power tests of small, portable nuclear reactor

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What would the effects be of releasing nuclear waste in space? Could we sent up all of our nuclear waste, put a rocket on it and just let it disappear into the distance?

I think the drawback for space disposal is the risk of rocket failure. If a rocket explodes with nuclear waste on board, the waste would spread over a large area. It's safer at the moment to consolidate nuclear waste in small areas away from civilization.

>If a rocket explodes with nuclear waste on board, the waste would spread over a large area.

Space is very big. Is it actually likely that said waste spreading would even be noticeable?

Re: NASA completes full-power tests of small, portable nuclear reactor

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the drawback for space disposal is the risk of rocket failure. If a rocket explodes with nuclear waste on board, the waste would spread over a large area. It's safer at the moment to consolidate nuclear waste in small areas away from civilization.

>If a rocket explodes with nuclear waste on board, the waste would spread over a large area. Space is very big. Is it actually likely that said waste spreading would even be noticeable?

When a rocket explodes, it's normally in the atmosphere right over an ocean.
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