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Fake it till you make it: the wolves of Instagram

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Re: Fake it till you make it: the wolves of Instagram

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Guy they chose seems like a bad example. - 30k on insta (since 2014): instagram.com/elijah_oezz - 3k on YouTube youtube.com/channel/UCk4fZzhD8fStRHITL4sP_LA - 0 comments on any of his pics Forex trading is certainly big on SM but this guy does not convert a single visitor.

Great find, thanks for noticing. He probably bought most of them to "fake it" until he (probably) makes it.

Re: Fake it till you make it: the wolves of Instagram

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same thing happened with Michael Lewis's Liar's Poker [1]. Written as a parody. Now distributed to junior bankers as a handbook of hustle and an advertisement of the good life promised. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liar%27s_Poker

I have had scenes from Glengarry Glen Ross played in sales meetings dozens of times.

And were you always closing?

Re: Fake it till you make it: the wolves of Instagram

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Guy they chose seems like a bad example. - 30k on insta (since 2014): instagram.com/elijah_oezz - 3k on YouTube youtube.com/channel/UCk4fZzhD8fStRHITL4sP_LA - 0 comments on any of his pics Forex trading is certainly big on SM but this guy does not convert a single visitor.

He has comments disabled on instagram.

Re: Fake it till you make it: the wolves of Instagram

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One thing I've been struck by with movies and films like the Wolf of Wall Street, the film Wall Street, Fight Club, or even the Great Gatsby is how many people end up coming away with the exact opposite message of the movie. They end up idolizing the vapid, shallow lifestyle that the movie is critiquing, because even though the film is critiquing that it can't help but also make it glamorous. Michael Douglas has said…

"because even though the film is critiquing that it can't help but also make it glamorous." Honestly, they don't try hard not make it look glamorous. This extravaganza is totally part of what makes people watch it.

Indeed the one thing that sticks out in my mind about The Wolf of Wall Street is that no effort was made to show all the harm he did to the people he stole from. It was just one very, very long spectacle. Not a film I'd watch twice.

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Maybe it’s time the EU took a look at advertising. I mean, we’re building things like the GDPR and a lot of legislation to protect minors from the dangers that come from social media. We see loot boxes, underage gambling, traders selling you recommendations for their own products, scammers, young people prostitute them selves to get photo shoots at exotic locations or for luxurary stuff for likes. Probably worse than…

> young people prostitute them selves to get photo shoots at exotic locations or for luxurary stuff for likes So what's the alternative, working 9-5 in retail for minimum wage and after 10 years you are still nowhere? Unless you are in a highly demanded domain like software, there are few opportunities for young people.

The alternative is genuine entrepreneurship or working your butt off in school in an area that is actually in demand rather than a pointless degree. There seems to be an assumption now that everyone is entitled to a nice cushy lifestyle but if you don’t work in school, don’t develop in demand skills or find a gap in the market to exploit then it’s not going to happen.

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Maybe it’s time the EU took a look at advertising. I mean, we’re building things like the GDPR and a lot of legislation to protect minors from the dangers that come from social media. We see loot boxes, underage gambling, traders selling you recommendations for their own products, scammers, young people prostitute them selves to get photo shoots at exotic locations or for luxurary stuff for likes. Probably worse than…

> young people prostitute them selves to get photo shoots at exotic locations or for luxurary stuff for likes So what's the alternative, working 9-5 in retail for minimum wage and after 10 years you are still nowhere? Unless you are in a highly demanded domain like software, there are few opportunities for young people.

I mean, that's only because you/we romanticise our industry.

What a bizarre false dichotomy. Literal prostitution, retail job, or software development. There are plenty of others out there that are needed that people work in. Become an apprentice, learn a trade, and start business. Work in retail, become a manager, own a location, climb the ranks. Get a finance degree, work at a firm, create a consultancy.

Re: Fake it till you make it: the wolves of Instagram

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same thing happened with Michael Lewis's Liar's Poker [1]. Written as a parody. Now distributed to junior bankers as a handbook of hustle and an advertisement of the good life promised. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liar%27s_Poker

I have had scenes from Glengarry Glen Ross played in sales meetings dozens of times.

Which scenes specifically?

Re: Fake it till you make it: the wolves of Instagram

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post #4

One thing I've been struck by with movies and films like the Wolf of Wall Street, the film Wall Street, Fight Club, or even the Great Gatsby is how many people end up coming away with the exact opposite message of the movie. They end up idolizing the vapid, shallow lifestyle that the movie is critiquing, because even though the film is critiquing that it can't help but also make it glamorous. Michael Douglas has said…

I think one reason is that in these movies those actors you mention are the “heroes” of the story, in the sense that they’re the ones who undergoe the transformation. The flip side, all the people who have lost everything because of Belfort are not portraited at all.

Another reason might be that many people are simply greedy and the consequences for the main actors weren’t that bad in the end after all. I think the real Belfort made an appearance at the end of the movie and gives speeches nowadays...

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