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Re: Google Maps Platform

#201

For everyone thinking they are going to be billed for unwanted overuse. You can restrict API access and rate limit the requests.

Do you have any documentation for this claim?

All I can see is that this is for those on Premium Plans only which is a "Contact Sales" only tier.

Re: Google Maps Platform

#202

I run https://www.instantstreetview.com which does 100,000+ 'map loads' per day. The price for these has effectively increased by a factor of 28 ($0.50 -> $14 per 1000), which is completely unsustainable ($1,400 daily!)

Will be extremely sad to see fun maps projects disappear as a result of this. We're also seeing a huge increase in cost (we are a paying user already) at https://www.openrent.co.uk/, but I kind of hoped commercial projects would be treated differently to non-commercial ones.

Re: Google Maps Platform

#203

I run https://www.instantstreetview.com which does 100,000+ 'map loads' per day. The price for these has effectively increased by a factor of 28 ($0.50 -> $14 per 1000), which is completely unsustainable ($1,400 daily!)

Will be extremely sad to see fun maps projects disappear as a result of this. We're also seeing a huge increase in cost (we are a paying user already) at https://www.openrent.co.uk/ , but I kind of hoped commercial projects would be treated differently to non-commercial ones.

When I spoke to the sales team last year, they admitted they had no appropriate plan to suit small, but popular projects.

They attempted to shoehorn me onto the premium plan but many aspects of it are geared toward larger entities - very steep initial cost (per map load) with discounts for huge volumes.

Re: Google Maps Platform

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Just click the edit button on https://www.openstreetmap.org/ , I find the interface quite nice. It's quite addictive! That being said, I don't know of a similarly easy to use editor on Android for simple things like adding opening hours or addresses.

http://vespucci.io/ is active developed and pretty powerful. For simply adding opening hours or a phone number I use https://maps.me/download/ (iOS, Android).

I think maps.me is one of the few apps that are easy to use and contribute to OSM. Unfortunately there was some controversy, because maps got vandalized or filled with trivial/garbage data, because user didn't understand that their notes ended up in a public database.

Re: Google Maps Platform

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Does anyone know why Amazon doesn't have a maps offering on AWS? I've heard their internal logistics GIS services are pretty advanced and it surprises me they don't have a GIS category on AWS to the point I'm convinced there must some very specific reason they've chosen not to implement. Companies like MapBox and Carto seem to be doing well, Microsoft and Google have map services, demand seems to exist. Additionally…

Indeed, even Microsoft Azure launched their own Location Services as part of their cloud offering: https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/services/location-based-se...

Re: Google Maps Platform

#206
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Leaflet is a nice javascript library for slippy maps, but you still need to bring your own tileserver (OSM is not free to embed for anything beyond light usage I believe)

Yeah, I just had never heard of maplet, so I was unsure if that s/he really meant leaflet or maplet.

Oops. In the process of trying to decide whether to write leaflet or mapbox I confused the names.

Re: Google Maps Platform

#207
Something is not totally clear and will make a big difference. Prior to this with standard it was 25,000 free loads per day. Is this being dropped? It seems like it but I received an email saying based on my usage I would be within the $200 free credit limit.

Re: Google Maps Platform

#208

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I think the problem is users don't want to pay and have their data scrutinized for ads. It would be like if you paid Facebook and still had your data going to many third parties. I think Mapbox has a very different reputation for this reason (also they contribute back to OpenStreetMap).

Google doesn't store user data when you use the paid version of maps. For example when you call places API on the premium plan nothing is ever stored on Google's side after the query is made and results returned.

Can you provide a link for that?

When I used Google Apps for business (not overly cheap)they were using more of our data than we were.

Of course, maps API might be different, but would love a source.

Re: Google Maps Platform

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Been eyeing Mapbox myself. How do you think OSM/Mapbox can deal with the constant burden of meta-data gathering? From some basic OSM v Google tests, OSM coverage was much lower for things like place names or speed limits. As you say, the infrastructure requirements for this seem massive, though perhaps getting better as GIS info become easier to gather.

> From some basic OSM v Google tests, OSM coverage was much lower for things like place names or speed limits. In which region did you test? The local mapping community can make a night and day difference. In Africa there are places almost in unmapped on Google that are extensively mapped on OSM (Google doesn't give a damn if there isn't money to be made). In western Europe it's pretty good, especially in the Netherl…

> it can be either reasonably comprehensive or a total mess depending on the city or state or something.

I'm currently evaluating US coverage and this has been my experience, though even cases with better coverage it still fell short of Google Maps.

It's a tough problem in the sense that people have generally gotten used to the excellent coverage of Google Maps, so anything deviating in even a minor way is seen as noticeably inferior.

I'd love to know if others are running into similar issues in the US.

Re: Google Maps Platform

#210
post #74

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The only silver lining is that www.openstreetmap.org (OSM) will hopefully get more love. Since google admits that 98% of current users will continue to incur 0 cost this is simply a blatant way of getting a real name associated with their user data.

Why does everyone always assume the worst? > this is simply a blatant way of getting a real name associated with their user data Or maybe it's a way to control access to their systems in a more reasonable and auditable way, and prevent some abuse too.

> Why does everyone always assume the worst?

If the worst isn't part of the strategy, they should explicitly forbid themselves from doing the worst in their Terms of Service. Or at least publicly advertised in a legally enforceable manner. The fact that they don't is pretty good red flag that they either are doing it or want to leave the door open to doing it later.

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