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Tesla is hit by $2B patent troll case from Nikola Motors

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Re: Tesla is hit by $2B patent troll case from Nikola Motors

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If I was a shareholder in Nikola Id be worried. A new company should be focused on making great products and innovating. Getting into the patent suing game for what seemed to me to be trivial design elements seems like someone is distracted.

Maybe they did it for a little attention and feel the cost is worth it...

Re: Tesla is hit by $2B patent troll case from Nikola Motors

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If I was a shareholder in Nikola Id be worried. A new company should be focused on making great products and innovating. Getting into the patent suing game for what seemed to me to be trivial design elements seems like someone is distracted. Maybe they did it for a little attention and feel the cost is worth it...

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Re: Tesla is hit by $2B patent troll case from Nikola Motors

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How is this a patent troll? Nikola isn’t a non-practicing entity. They have their own competing product. Was the Apple-Samsung patent litigation “patent trolling?”

I'm with you I don't understand why people are so quick to call a company a "patent troll" diluting the meaning.

Re: Tesla is hit by $2B patent troll case from Nikola Motors

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How is this a patent troll? Nikola isn’t a non-practicing entity. They have their own competing product. Was the Apple-Samsung patent litigation “patent trolling?”

The article includes this image, which shows all three patented elements, along with a bunch of 1980s/90s hair and typography: https://electrek.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/7d9a939bf5c3281...

Seems to clearly indicate these patents should be invalidated.

Re: Tesla is hit by $2B patent troll case from Nikola Motors

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post #6

How is this a patent troll? Nikola isn’t a non-practicing entity. They have their own competing product. Was the Apple-Samsung patent litigation “patent trolling?”

The article includes this image, which shows all three patented elements, along with a bunch of 1980s/90s hair and typography: https://electrek.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/7d9a939bf5c3281... Seems to clearly indicate these patents should be invalidated.

That's true, but that's not the definition of a "patent troll". Patent trolls very specifically make all of their money with patent lawsuits and settlements. Nikola Motors is a real company making real products, however misguided this lawsuit is.

Re: Tesla is hit by $2B patent troll case from Nikola Motors

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post #5

How is this a patent troll? Nikola isn’t a non-practicing entity. They have their own competing product. Was the Apple-Samsung patent litigation “patent trolling?”

I'm with you I don't understand why people are so quick to call a company a "patent troll" diluting the meaning.

This is either an opinion or PR piece. It's one-sided right off the bat and continually reminds the reader that this company is very obviously bad.

Re: Tesla is hit by $2B patent troll case from Nikola Motors

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How is this a patent troll? Nikola isn’t a non-practicing entity. They have their own competing product. Was the Apple-Samsung patent litigation “patent trolling?”

Look at the pictures. They look about as similar as a Ford does to a Dodge. The grill, headlamps, body panels, windshield, hell, even the length of the truck is completely different between the two trucks.

A truck is a truck, you can't patent the form factor of a truck.

Re: Tesla is hit by $2B patent troll case from Nikola Motors

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article includes this image, which shows all three patented elements, along with a bunch of 1980s/90s hair and typography: https://electrek.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/7d9a939bf5c3281... Seems to clearly indicate these patents should be invalidated.

That's true, but that's not the definition of a "patent troll". Patent trolls very specifically make all of their money with patent lawsuits and settlements. Nikola Motors is a real company making real products, however misguided this lawsuit is.

I'd be inclined to include "targets competitors with blatantly invalid patents" under the definition of "patent troll", personally.
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