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Re: Apple is a traditional business

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Post by codehandle »

fhood wrote: post #22
oflannabhra wrote: post #11

> ...this is a time when Amazon is pushing innovations that don’t solve any real-world problems but may create some: like smart speakers, with their threat of big brother-style surveillance in exchange for a minimal increase in convenience, or complex and expensive cashierless stores that won’t deliver much of an improvement to our shopping experience but may cost underprivileged people their jobs. This is a time whe…

I occasionally loose sleep, wondering what products were lost due to Jobs' early death. Edit: Ok, fine. I loose sleep wondering what ideas were out there that languished because Jobs wasn't around to see their potential and capitalize on them. The argument "he wasn't that important because he didn't actually invent X" is played out, and it fundamentally misses the point.

> The argument "he wasn't that important because he didn't actually invent X" is played out, and it fundamentally misses the point.

If I have a position to contribute it's that those ideas are still out there. Job's greatest gift was his sense of taste. He had refined a sense of good art.

If more management had such sense they would be better patrons feeding good art and killing tasteless hacks projects.

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Post by Dim0N »

zf00002 wrote: post #45
Aditya_Garg wrote: post #18

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Actually, if you don't pay the developer fee, you can only install 2 apps per apple account and they get deactivated in a week. If you do pay, I think its unlimited apps and a 3 month long period before they get deactivated.

When did that change? I wrote an app that I use every day and have been for about 4 years now. The most recent time I've had to load it on a new phone was in Dec of last year. My apple dev account was originally a paid one though so maybe that has something to do with it? I really hope I don't run into this deactivation thing.

>My apple dev account was originally a paid one though so maybe that has something to do with it?

Yeah that is why. I had a paid one also and I still have those perks.

Re: Apple is a traditional business

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Post by thisacctforreal »

hefeweizen wrote: post #168
gambiting wrote: post #125

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You need to press a button to activate Siri. Alexa/Google home are listening at all times.

False, "Hey Siri" activates Siri on the iphone (just tried this out). So, it's not different.

Apple has been a leader in security, and has shown to take privacy seriously.

The "Hey Siri" wake is done completely locally, and is opt-in on top of Siri.

https://techcrunch.com/2015/09/11/apple-addresses-privacy-qu...

Apple also consistently makes the trade-off of privacy above user-experience; in order to offer similar features to Google photos, they train neural networks on-device.

As well as how seriously they take the biometric data from Touch ID and Face ID, I'm much more comfortable around a HomePod than Alexa.

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Post by thisacctforreal »

esrauch wrote: post #157
_bxg1 wrote: post #149

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The difference is where the exchange of money happens. Because Google's, and Facebook's, Amazon's, and most SV startups' services are free, you get the privacy problems and the ulterior motives and the trust issues. With Apple, you paid for the product up-front. The transaction is done and in the open. They don't have to do anything skeevy to make money off their product.

Apple has plenty of non-aligned incentives, they control the store (+30% subscription tax on Spotify, taking down apps that compete with "core functionality"), they don't want you to repair your phone (and planned obsolescence) where ewaste and their profit is connected.

Apple does not seem to want you to open the phone, but they are easily the most repairable phones available. Most repair shops will repair any iPhone, and you can stumble through it yourself using YouTube or iFixit.

According to this 2/3 Apple devices sold are still active today: http://www.asymco.com/2018/02/27/the-number/

I believe Apple gains directly from the longevity. People know that Apple products last long and hold resale value; where I am the iPhone 5s from Sept 2013 is sold second-hand for ~$150CAD

Devices with high resale value mean customers can upgrade frequently.

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Post by jaegerpicker »

hungerstrike wrote: post #119
jaegerpicker wrote: post #109

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This is completely false, I have several apps that I've built on my own personal account, which is expired because I haven't released a personal app in a year or so, all of them are still running just fine after a year.

Incorrect. Provisioning profiles created by free Apple developer accounts only last for 7 days. After that you have to fire up Xcode and rebuild your app and reinstall it. This is a very well known fact that you can find documentation for on many sites outside of apple.com, such as right here - https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/xamarin/ios/get-started/ins... The sad fact is that it's not your phone, it's Apples.

This IS NOT INCORRECT. I have numerous apps that still work. Provisioning profiles have nothing to do with the app running and everything to do with installing the app. If you need to re-install the app XCode automatically regenerates a new provisioning profile for you. Please educate yourself about the details of how technical items work before speaking negatively about something.

I have my fair share of complaints about Apple but speaking negatively via ignorance is always something that should be corrected.

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Post by mercutio2 »

snowwrestler wrote: post #238
mercutio2 wrote: post #235

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I agree with your second paragraph, but quibble with the first. I don’t think there’s that much latitude. The IRS routinely questions companies large and small, in detail, about whether they were really developing new products, or just polishing/improving existing products. The former counts as R&D (and gets favorable tax treatment), the latter is not. The test is more complicated than this, but latitude is not a wor…

I get why the IRS would be interested in companies trying to hide operations inside the favorable tax treatment of R&D, but do you think the opposite is also true? Would the IRS (or SEC) care if a company underreported its R&D spending by choosing to classify new product development as a typical expense?

Point taken. I don’t know if the SEC would care, seems possible, but you’re right, it hadn’t occurred to me anyone would deliberately under report R&D, there probably is latitude in that direction.

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Post by hungerstrike »

scarface74 wrote: post #234
hungerstrike wrote: post #233

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Yes thanks, that's what I was laughing about. You can attempt to run such a system, but since nobody does (and for good reason) all your tinkering will be in vain and you'll have a fairly useless system. Enjoy that! You can't actually tinker with the things that you want to use though, can you? Nope. Again, Microsofts offerings simply outclass Apple here - they've got hooks to let you modify just about every interfac…

So I just showed you how you could do it with links and because "no one does it" that means it "can't be done". Have you thought that the reason "no one does it" is because most people don't want to muck with their systems and just want to get stuff done? You want to "tinker with the kernel" but you are complaining about modify a plist?

I didn't say that I wanted to tinker with the kernel. I want to tinker with the Finder, the Dock and the actual window manager that everybody uses, not XQuartz which nobody uses.

You showed that in order to tinker with Apples stuff you have to completely replace Apples stuff. That's hilarious!

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Post by Aditya_Garg »

dep_b wrote: post #185
Aditya_Garg wrote: post #18

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Actually, if you don't pay the developer fee, you can only install 2 apps per apple account and they get deactivated in a week. If you do pay, I think its unlimited apps and a 3 month long period before they get deactivated.

I think you're confused with iTunes Connect. Whatever I push with Xcode stays on my phone forever.

Are you sure you don't have a paid account? My provisioning profiles expire after 7 days (the app is still on my phone but upon launch it just crashes with a white screen)

http://mybyways.com/blog/new-limitations-imposed-on-free-app...

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/36998956/why-does-my-fre...

https://forums.developer.apple.com/thread/47837

https://www.reddit.com/r/jailbreak/comments/4hotx3/news_free...

The worst part is that these changes weren't announced by Apple in any way.

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