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How Reddit Kicked Digg’s Ass

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Re: How Reddit Kicked Digg’s Ass

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Post by there »

dpritchett wrote: post #29
joshfinnie wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is funny, because I agree with your statement. But I never thought of Reddit as made for discussion. Maybe I miss out, but I always have a terrible time following the comments on Reddit (granted I don't even try on Digg and comparing Reddit to HN might be apples to oranges). The comments are usually confusing and non-beneficial to me.

I get great mileage out of this "hide replies to comments" bookmarklet - it allows me to quickly read the best-rated comments that reply directly to the article. If a comment is thought-provoking I'll click through to see what discussion it's spawned. http://gist.github.com/582630

i know from reading reddit often that there are frequently highly-rated comments as replies that are several levels deep, and possibly have nothing to do with the original top-level reply.

i recommend sorting comments by "best", and then just cranking up your minimum score rating in your preferences so that comments under, say, 10 will not get shown.

Re: How Reddit Kicked Digg’s Ass

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Post by dRother »

smudgy wrote: post #18
pvg wrote: post #13

Title should probably be 'How Digg's fuckup benefited Reddit'

I agree, It has nothing to do with Reddit. It's all about how Digg managed, as if by miracle, to scuttle its own boat in a few hours. Digg didn't feel like Digg anymore after the change so I looked for something that felt like digg and found Reddit. It's obviously not the same and there are things that almost make it unbearable (I love the analogy that Reddit is 4chan lite) but I'll stick around there until something…

It has a lot to do with Reddit in that Reddit was available, better, and already fairly well known. It's not like the article could possibly go "How Digg's Whatever Benefited Mixx.com". Reddit was basically standing there ready to soak up Digg users once masses of them stuck their heads up for long enough to notice that Digg isn't really that entertaining or informative, and other sites may suit them better.

Re: How Reddit Kicked Digg’s Ass

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Post by studer »

ubernostrum wrote: post #8
wazoox wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It already did, alas. A couple of years ago it was really nice, but even when selecting only a few potentially interesting reddits (programming, science, etc), some posts are OK but comments are more and more both useless and stupid. So finally I spend much more time on HN now. Though the problem is that probably most older reddit users will come there, then pushing the HN old-timers to start some alternate HN-clone…

As I always do when someone starts off on this flight of mythology, allow me to suggest that you read Clay Shirky's "A Group Is Its Own Worst Enemy": http://www.shirky.com/writings/group_enemy.html You may learn some things about these cycles of "I was on Site X and it was great, then went to crap, then I went to Site Y, then it went to crap..." which will surprise you, and which -- at least in my reading and based o…

Am I the only one seeing a huge chunk of Viagra spam ("A proposito viagra 50 mg di pazienti affetti da malattie coronariche 10,8-11,8 arteria laureato rilevando ...") in the middle of that article?

Re: How Reddit Kicked Digg’s Ass

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Post by golgo13 »

InclinedPlane wrote: post #5
Revisor wrote: post #4

Will the wave of users coming from Digg be useful participants? Will there be any paid gaming of Reddit? Will Reddit turn into a sewer as it grows, as did Digg?

I've visited reddit a fair number of times and haven't found much use for it over other sites. The comments on reddit are typically about as valuable as those on 4chan with the modification that they are on average less entertaining and also contain fewer pictures of genitalia (on average).

Try /r/gonewild

Re: How Reddit Kicked Digg’s Ass

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Post by pygy_ »

golgo13 wrote: post #34
InclinedPlane wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've visited reddit a fair number of times and haven't found much use for it over other sites. The comments on reddit are typically about as valuable as those on 4chan with the modification that they are on average less entertaining and also contain fewer pictures of genitalia (on average).

Try /r/gonewild

Warning: NSFW (amateur nudity).

Re: How Reddit Kicked Digg’s Ass

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Post by wazoox »

studer wrote: post #33
ubernostrum wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As I always do when someone starts off on this flight of mythology, allow me to suggest that you read Clay Shirky's "A Group Is Its Own Worst Enemy": http://www.shirky.com/writings/group_enemy.html You may learn some things about these cycles of "I was on Site X and it was great, then went to crap, then I went to Site Y, then it went to crap..." which will surprise you, and which -- at least in my reading and based o…

Am I the only one seeing a huge chunk of Viagra spam ("A proposito viagra 50 mg di pazienti affetti da malattie coronariche 10,8-11,8 arteria laureato rilevando ...") in the middle of that article?

Mmmh... Yes, probably. Your PC must be infected.

Re: How Reddit Kicked Digg’s Ass

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Post by codexon »

pvg wrote: post #13

Title should probably be 'How Digg's fuckup benefited Reddit'

I agree with you there. Digg's traffic was higher before the change to v4.

I think what may have happened was that they looked at Reddit's plea for money as an excuse to commercialize, and took it too far.

Re: How Reddit Kicked Digg’s Ass

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Post by hugh3 »

I don't know if the person responsible for this vospe.com site is someone here, but it's really bad design.

1. It crashed my browser the first time I tried to look at it (Firefox 3.5.12 on mac)

2. It broke the normal functionality of my up and down scroll keys... apparently I press down to scroll down a little and it goes all the way down to the comments section.

3. That grey box hovering at the top and blocking out some of the text is just plain obnoxious.

Re: How Reddit Kicked Digg’s Ass

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Post by pstuart »

joshfinnie wrote: post #24
jakevoytko wrote: post #16

Reddit kicked Digg's ass because Reddit is designed as a feedback loop that benefits all users. Digg only rewards elite users. Look at a random Reddit submission. If it survives the first minute, it makes some user's frontpage. If it is "good," it gets votes and is seen by more people. If the username is popular, it gets upvoted faster. But it turns out this is not necessary for success - I have submitted successful…

It is funny, because I agree with your statement. But I never thought of Reddit as made for discussion. Maybe I miss out, but I always have a terrible time following the comments on Reddit (granted I don't even try on Digg and comparing Reddit to HN might be apples to oranges). The comments are usually confusing and non-beneficial to me.

Funnier still, I see it the opposite way: reddit discussions are, more often than not, more valuable than the articles themselves (although the s/n ratio is diminishing).

Same is true for HN, but the s/n ratio remains quite high.

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