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Re: Rate my startup: hosted continuous integration for Python

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Post by jreposa » Thu, Sep 16, 2010, 2:33 PM UTC

old-gregg wrote: post #20

jreposa wrote: post #6

I'm having a hard time understanding what role ShiningPanda would play in our deployment process. Is this a hosted Capistrano type service, but with testing? Or, is it more like Heroku but with EC2/GAE/etc? Something like "it's the [Heroku|or whatever] for Python" would be much easier to understand how to utilize your offering. Or, is there really no other comparable service? Linked: http://www.shiningpanda.com

He said very clearly: it is a continuous integration server. I don't understand where your analogies with Heroku are coming from. Here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuous_integration

Gotcha. It's my mistake. I was thinking of Continuous Deployment. CI seems like something I should be doing though.

Re: Rate my startup: hosted continuous integration for Python

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Post by Xixi » Thu, Sep 16, 2010, 2:48 PM UTC

moron4hire wrote: post #19

Couple this with a DHTML editor and automatic revision control (new revision on every save) and I would love it. DropBox has been great for hacking client-side apps across multiple machines, but for web apps it's kind of a chore. You know, Google Docs + some sort of web-based VIM + CodePad.org would be the bees knees.

That sounds like an interesting idea, but I think it would be quite of a stretch to include this in the scope of ShiningPanda.

We are really focused on the testing part of software development. How you write the code is up to you, or to another startup...

Re: Rate my startup: hosted continuous integration for Python

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Post by Argorak » Thu, Sep 16, 2010, 2:58 PM UTC

The Ruby world had something like this, called RunCodeRun. They closed down and wrote down a nice list of things on how it didn't work. How do you see those problems?

http://blog.runcoderun.com/post/463439385/saying-goodbye-to-...

Re: Rate my startup: hosted continuous integration for Python

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Post by 3lectricsheep » Thu, Sep 16, 2010, 2:58 PM UTC

dustingetz wrote: post #18

presumably you already know the business model. Do you intend to be a serious host? Do you understand the challenges of being "rock solid" (quoted from Heroku.com)? This is the type of business that I doubt few kids in a basement can put together--It seems that you need a real team, with real credentials and real funding. What do you think?

Hello there, my first post here :)

I understand your point, but i think that people need to start building prototypes, minimum viable products, and then (if they are lucky enough) will have all the fun to scale their startup.

Talking about fundings at this stage is a bit premature, in my opinion.

Re: Rate my startup: hosted continuous integration for Python

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Post by rfinn » Thu, Sep 16, 2010, 3:15 PM UTC

Xixi wrote: post #22

moron4hire wrote: post #19

Couple this with a DHTML editor and automatic revision control (new revision on every save) and I would love it. DropBox has been great for hacking client-side apps across multiple machines, but for web apps it's kind of a chore. You know, Google Docs + some sort of web-based VIM + CodePad.org would be the bees knees.

That sounds like an interesting idea, but I think it would be quite of a stretch to include this in the scope of ShiningPanda. We are really focused on the testing part of software development. How you write the code is up to you, or to another startup...

I'm actually working on this idea right now.

Re: Rate my startup: hosted continuous integration for Python

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Post by dustingetz » Thu, Sep 16, 2010, 3:16 PM UTC

3lectricsheep wrote: post #24

dustingetz wrote: post #18

presumably you already know the business model. Do you intend to be a serious host? Do you understand the challenges of being "rock solid" (quoted from Heroku.com)? This is the type of business that I doubt few kids in a basement can put together--It seems that you need a real team, with real credentials and real funding. What do you think?

Hello there, my first post here :) I understand your point, but i think that people need to start building prototypes, minimum viable products, and then (if they are lucky enough) will have all the fun to scale their startup. Talking about fundings at this stage is a bit premature, in my opinion.

imo its not really a startup in the HN sense of "find and validate a business model"--the business model is known, so imo its much more about skill of execution than iterating prototypes.

Re: Rate my startup: hosted continuous integration for Python

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Post by Lewisham » Thu, Sep 16, 2010, 3:26 PM UTC

The thing you will really need to push on in your message is ease-of-use and functionality. Continuous Integration is one of those things that you mention to most teams and they raise an eyebrow and go "Why would I do that? Our tests only take 30 seconds." For the teams that know how CI would help them, they're already running a Hudson instance, and will need a compelling reason to switch.

I think you'll definitely need to start talking about the sort of things you get with Hudson plugins: particularly reporting, static code analysis etc. above and beyond simply building and running tests.

I'm a big believer in CI. I work with Hudson every once in a while, and the devs on that project are very good indeed. It's definitely an enterprise hammer which doesn't necessarily make it too easy to crack small nuts (hudson.rb alleviates much as you don't need a Java web server, but you still need some private server somewhere), and more people running CI can only be a net benefit.

Re: Rate my startup: hosted continuous integration for Python

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Post by roblund » Thu, Sep 16, 2010, 3:29 PM UTC

Looks like a cool idea. I am definitely interested to see your interface, and how you schedule your builds. Having a reliable continuous integration system setup is super important if you hope to keep a large test suite up-to-date and relevant. I also really dislike configuring servers (like a CI server), so it is nice to have a hosted service that would handle a lot of that stuff for me.

Re: Rate my startup: hosted continuous integration for Python

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Post by agentultra » Thu, Sep 16, 2010, 3:49 PM UTC

roblund wrote: post #28

Looks like a cool idea. I am definitely interested to see your interface, and how you schedule your builds. Having a reliable continuous integration system setup is super important if you hope to keep a large test suite up-to-date and relevant. I also really dislike configuring servers (like a CI server), so it is nice to have a hosted service that would handle a lot of that stuff for me.

Having a CI system that is easy to maintain, has granular reporting at regular intervals of the build process, and is a breeze to write tests for is golden.

A hosted service would be a good first step in this direction.

Re: Rate my startup: hosted continuous integration for Python

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Post by recampbell » Thu, Sep 16, 2010, 4:00 PM UTC

I'm helping to build a similar service at http://cloudbees.com. It's basically a Hudson as a Service, so you can build pretty much whatever you want. Hudson build machines are dynamically attached to your Hudson master, and removed when the build is done. We plan to support most Hudson plugins.