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I've spent the last two years building a new email client

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Re: I've spent the last two years building a new email client

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Post by adamnemecek »

salimmadjd wrote: post #370

I put my name on the waitlist, but instantly lost interest and confidence by: “Jump forward 5 steps in the line for every person you invite and get beta access sooner.” Why? If the product is that good I’ll evangelize it. This is a desktop application, so I don’t see a big boost from a network effect. All this does makes me wonder if the product is more about building hype than value

I think that that one email app that got acquired by dropbox before even launching did this and I think people are just copying it.

Re: I've spent the last two years building a new email client

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Post by hjek »

Mononokay wrote: post #362
Qwertie wrote: post #283

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems to be a proprietary application so app privacy went out the window already.

You can audit the code of every Electron app, so why are you acting like it's full of spyware that you'll never be able to have privacy with?

Ever heard of minimized JavaScript[0]?

[0]: https://github.com/google/closure-compiler

Re: I've spent the last two years building a new email client

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Post by neutronicus »

ynniv wrote: post #262

I don't think this puts enough emphasis on the fact that it is a local client and not a web service. I see some people here griping about Electron, but the privacy implications of being a local app are way more important than the performance of the framework used.

My partner actually has the opposite pain-point:

She wants an e-mail client that stores attachments remotely, only downloading them as requested by by the client. Is there an e-mail service that does things this way?

Re: I've spent the last two years building a new email client

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Post by muszc-master »

BuildTheRobots wrote: post #368
purple-again wrote: post #366

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its made with Electron so my understanding is it should work on Windows/Linux/Mac out of the box!

Electron? The obvious snarky comment has to then be "oh and it should manage to be slower than Thunderbird out of the box, too!" I hope he's had better luck integrating spell check than the RamBox devs have ;) edit: yes, I would love to test it and provide numbers rather than just snark - I just have to wait for the ~5,000 people ahead of me in the queue to have their software pressed to disk and posted to them befor…

Haha "pressed to disk and posted" that was a fun remark :)

Re: I've spent the last two years building a new email client

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Post by loceng »

salimmadjd wrote: post #370

I put my name on the waitlist, but instantly lost interest and confidence by: “Jump forward 5 steps in the line for every person you invite and get beta access sooner.” Why? If the product is that good I’ll evangelize it. This is a desktop application, so I don’t see a big boost from a network effect. All this does makes me wonder if the product is more about building hype than value

I dislike tricks like this too, especially because in the end you're still going to get access to it. If a product is good enough, as you said, then I'll tell everyone about it. I think technical or non-business people see this kind of trick and perhaps don't think of the deeper consequences of it - it's not quite a dark pattern, though it feels manipulative.

Re: I've spent the last two years building a new email client

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Post by purple-again »

muszc-master wrote: post #369
purple-again wrote: post #366

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its made with Electron so my understanding is it should work on Windows/Linux/Mac out of the box!

Some stuff needs to be sorted out and adapted to Linux so it might take some time before it's out on Linux. However, a lot of users has requested a Linux version which makes this a priority

Ahh sorry for spreading misinformation then. I started playing around with Electron a bit when I discovered that both my Discord and Slack apps are Electron and its pretty awesome tech.

Best of luck with your client!

Re: I've spent the last two years building a new email client

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Post by LeoPanthera »

neutronicus wrote: post #373
ynniv wrote: post #262

I don't think this puts enough emphasis on the fact that it is a local client and not a web service. I see some people here griping about Electron, but the privacy implications of being a local app are way more important than the performance of the framework used.

My partner actually has the opposite pain-point: She wants an e-mail client that stores attachments remotely, only downloading them as requested by by the client. Is there an e-mail service that does things this way?

Apple Mail has this as a setting, works with any IMAP provider.

Re: I've spent the last two years building a new email client

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Post by muszc-master »

loceng wrote: post #376
salimmadjd wrote: post #370

I put my name on the waitlist, but instantly lost interest and confidence by: “Jump forward 5 steps in the line for every person you invite and get beta access sooner.” Why? If the product is that good I’ll evangelize it. This is a desktop application, so I don’t see a big boost from a network effect. All this does makes me wonder if the product is more about building hype than value

I dislike tricks like this too, especially because in the end you're still going to get access to it. If a product is good enough, as you said, then I'll tell everyone about it. I think technical or non-business people see this kind of trick and perhaps don't think of the deeper consequences of it - it's not quite a dark pattern, though it feels manipulative.

I'm sorry if it came across as manipulative. One of the reasons for having it like this is also so it can give me a metric on who in the waiting list are most interested in the program. And of course also to offer an incentive to share it.
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