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Re: Ask HN: How do you reduce unsolicited phone calls?

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post #14

I find that 99% of spam calls (at least for now) can be eliminated by simply not answering any numbers that match the first six digits of my own telephone number. I don't know why telemarketers decided this would be a good strategy to increase conversions, but it certainly makes things easier for me.

Because it's the 1950s, and it must be someone calling from the local exchange, probably the butcher's down the street at KLondike-0130...

Re: Ask HN: How do you reduce unsolicited phone calls?

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post #7

Answer the phone when they call and conference in the Jolly Roger telephone bot http://www.jollyrogertelco.com The bot will waste the telemarketers time, which is the most expensive thing that these companies are paying for. Do this enough times and the calls drop off rapidly.

There's no way I'd pay money for that. I've tried wasting telemarketer calls for years under the theory that it costs them. It's not working anymore, their strategy has changed. They are being trained to detect and hangup, and call back again and again later.

Even the ones that have options to hit '2' and add yourself to the do not call list are not only not adding you to any do not call list, they are confirming there's a human listening and increasing the call frequency. I just had that call 5 minutes ago, after attempting to opt-in to their do not call list twice this week.

Re: Ask HN: How do you reduce unsolicited phone calls?

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post #14

I find that 99% of spam calls (at least for now) can be eliminated by simply not answering any numbers that match the first six digits of my own telephone number. I don't know why telemarketers decided this would be a good strategy to increase conversions, but it certainly makes things easier for me.

That's my biggest source of callspam right now. So close to writing an iOS call blocker that just blocks those except a whitelist (though I think they automatically whitelist contacts with that API).

Re: Ask HN: How do you reduce unsolicited phone calls?

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For Android:

There are apps like Extreme Call Blocker (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.greythinke...) which you can set up to send everything not in your contact list straight to voicemail.

Also you could use something like Should I Answer (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.mistergrou...) which will show you if a caller is spammy based on a huge database of crowd-sourced ratings.

Re: Ask HN: How do you reduce unsolicited phone calls?

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

did not help.

please file FCC complaints

Despite having a mobile phone and being on the do not call list, I get 10 to 20 unsolicited telemarketing calls PER DAY.

Each one requires a detailed form to fill out on the FCC site which I send off into the oblivion only to have the call volume go unchanged (or increase). Sorry, tragedy of the commons and all, but it's just not worth it to me to take the time to do this.

Re: Ask HN: How do you reduce unsolicited phone calls?

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On my iPhone, I've been using Hiya to help, and it's been pretty good so far.

I have this, but recently "local" spam callers have been getting through a lot more. I don't know if they're spoofing or buying up blocks of numbers but most of them have "valid" caller ids in Hiya.

They're spoofing. You might even find SPAM calls for your own number if you look. I got a text from a confused person with the same first 6 digits (area code + part of the number) asking why I called, and had to explain that I didn't.

Re: Ask HN: How do you reduce unsolicited phone calls?

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post #9

In US, you could register your phone in Do Not call list from Federal Trade Commission - https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0133-cell-phones-and-d...

That doesn't help. I'm on it, and I regularly get spam calls that are all conveniently from my area code and a similar exchange code.

Yup, this approach of using mostly similar numbers to the victim’s phone number is the new hotness in robo-calls. NPR had a piece on it last year - https://www.npr.org/templates/transcript/transcript.php?stor...

Relevant quote from FCC Chairman Pai: “Which is the ultimate solution, I think, to this problem, which is to find a call authentication standard.”

And there’s no timeline when that’ll happen. So buckle in, we’ll be here a while.

Re: Ask HN: How do you reduce unsolicited phone calls?

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I answer and ask to be put on their do not call list (or if it's a scam bot, I press the remove button).

People say this just confirms you are a real person, but I'm pretty sure they haven't tried it successfully for months the way I have. I still get calls of course, but it's a couple a week and not from the same parties over and over and over.

Re: Ask HN: How do you reduce unsolicited phone calls?

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I'm fairly convinced that the only way this gets fixed is if enough people complain loudly to the phone companies & cancel accounts. Verizon / AT&T / T-mobile / etc. absolutely have the power to fix this, and they're choosing instead to largely ignore it, and productize the solutions for anyone who cares enough - let the spammers pay to create the problem, and let the consumers pay for the remedy. Telcos win on both ends.

I registered on the US national do not call list a decade ago. I'm not sure how much it helped over the years, but in the last few years, the phone calls illegally ignoring that list are increasing like crazy. All the telemarketer strategies are changing too, to get around whatever blocking method you have. They're spoofing random local numbers now, so you can't use your phone's number blocking feature. They're hanging up and calling back later to avoid time wasting. They're offering fake do not call lists to confirm a human is listening. I think it's hopeless, my only strategy now is just decline any call not in my address book. If it's someone who needs me, they'll leave a voicemail.

Re: Ask HN: How do you reduce unsolicited phone calls?

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I've accepted that they are a part of living in a system that doesn't value my privacy as much as corporate profit when the interests conflict.

I've registered with Do Not Call and I don't answer calls beginning with my 6 digits. The next steps would take too much effort.

I don't like accepting something I find repellent, but I have other priorities and I'd rather happily work on them than angrily be distracted.

Meanwhile, I'm working on cutting my incoming junk paper mail. I downloaded PaperKarma, but it doesn't work (it takes pictures but fails to upload them). I emailed them two bug reports but no response. Does anyone know what I can do instead?

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