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It's not native, looks like an electron app
Maybe 'native' is the wrong word, but I meant non-web-app.
Electron apps are web apps though.
I've spent the last two years building a new email client
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#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
On a desktop app, you can see what kind of request the program makes and which servers it contacts. With a webapp, you'll never know what the app does.
You can do the same in your browser by opening the developer tools and in fact it comes built in to the browser whereas on a desktop you'd have to install another app like Wireshark/Fiddler to see those requests.
That only tells you what your browser sends to their server. It doesn't tell you what connections their server makes.
Re: I've spent the last two years building a new email client
#63What is the reason to build it as a native software instead of a webapp? Seems like a lot of email clients are now webapps and I can see the arguments why.
Speed. Performance. Memory usage.
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#64No offense but unless it’s a 1st party client email clients are something that is very hard to trust. Who controls your client has access to your inbox with most services even the few that have separate IMAP/POP3 passwords like Hushmail can be compromised through it. If your client also integrates with encryption or worse takes charge of it my encryption key is also now at risk. Lastly since email today is pure HTML…
From the landing page: > Privacy & Security > Total privacy - we do not have access to your email account, Ivelope only sends your email data and password between your computer and your email server.
Without source code, that's nearly impossible to verify.
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#65God bless you for working in a space—native email clients—which seems utterly neglected nowadays.
I can kind of see why.
There is a lot of convenience in being able to log into any computer and access your mail. Plus Gmail search beats the search in native clients most of the time.
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#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because of Privacy concerns! The thinking is that few people would enter their email and email password on a 3rd-party website, having it as a downloadable software ensures the privacy of users
Although, in reality, that doesn't make it more secure.
That depends on the user.
Re: I've spent the last two years building a new email client
#68This looks fantastic, I was just thinking about so many of these features being released in gmail. Like the chat bubble. Those things really speed up reading information. Kudos!! Btw where are the electron haters?!
> Btw where are the electron haters?!
Hi! I'm here! ;)
I mentioned Electron in my comment, and Electron is a deal-breaker for me... but I would much rather encourage the work and effort that is going into this. If the product is successful and profitable, maybe it can be ported to native frameworks a few versions later. And considering the rumours about macOS, probably wise to avoid writing native Mac code just now.
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#70This looks amazing, I can't wait to try it out. My main problem with Thunderbird is that it doesn't have a conversation-based UI, but this looks like it does. Good stuff! (By the way, typo: "accessable" should be "accessible")
There is an extension for Thunderbird called Thunderbird Conversations [1] for a conversation based UI that provides a look similar to Gmail (though it may not look like chat, which is possible and would look nice only for those who exchange short one or two sentence emails). As that addon says, "Don't forget to hit View > Sort By > Threaded in the menus." to use it. Perhaps this extension would help you. [1]: https:…
I consistently have performance problems with that extension.