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Electronics-recycling innovator going to prison for trying extend computer lives

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Re: Electronics-recycling innovator going to prison for trying extend computer lives

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This should be in the news and front page of every tech site.

Whenever I bring up the abusive legal behaviour of these big companies or how inherently flawed IP laws are, people either shrug it off or treat me as if I was wearing a tinfoil-hat.

Re: Electronics-recycling innovator going to prison for trying extend computer lives

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post #3

This should be in the news and front page of every tech site. Whenever I bring up the abusive legal behaviour of these big companies or how inherently flawed IP laws are, people either shrug it off or treat me as if I was wearing a tinfoil-hat.

I'm wondering if this is government overzealousness, not something Microsoft particularly cared about (aside from their lawyer perhaps carelessly chiming in). Government has a lot invested in this prosecution: they set up a sting, some prosecutor's reputation is probably on the line.

It very much reminds me of the Aarton Swartz case (whose life was destroyed by Carmen Ortiz).

Anyway, the article is light on details.

Re: Electronics-recycling innovator going to prison for trying extend computer lives

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post #3

This should be in the news and front page of every tech site. Whenever I bring up the abusive legal behaviour of these big companies or how inherently flawed IP laws are, people either shrug it off or treat me as if I was wearing a tinfoil-hat.

I'm wondering if this is government overzealousness, not something Microsoft particularly cared about (aside from their lawyer perhaps carelessly chiming in). Government has a lot invested in this prosecution: they set up a sting, some prosecutor's reputation is probably on the line. It very much reminds me of the Aarton Swartz case (whose life was destroyed by Carmen Ortiz). Anyway, the article is light on details.

Microsoft could have disavowed any claims. Said that the CDs were worth nothing. But they didn't, so they're just as much at fault as the prosecutors are.

Re: Electronics-recycling innovator going to prison for trying extend computer lives

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm wondering if this is government overzealousness, not something Microsoft particularly cared about (aside from their lawyer perhaps carelessly chiming in). Government has a lot invested in this prosecution: they set up a sting, some prosecutor's reputation is probably on the line. It very much reminds me of the Aarton Swartz case (whose life was destroyed by Carmen Ortiz). Anyway, the article is light on details.

Microsoft could have disavowed any claims. Said that the CDs were worth nothing. But they didn't, so they're just as much at fault as the prosecutors are.

Heh, maybe they still will once the press is bad enough.

Oh yeah, here we go:

https://techcrunch.com/2018/04/27/microsoft-attempts-to-spin...

https://blogs.microsoft.com/on-the-issues/2018/04/27/the-fac...

Frank X. Shaw "Corporate Vice President, Communications, Microsoft" seems incompetent. This stance (not fully disavowing) is hurting his company much more than helping it. Aaron Swartz committed suicide. It's not a far stretch to think that this could happen here. Would that really help Microsoft?

Re: Electronics-recycling innovator going to prison for trying extend computer lives

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Appalling. Anyone planning on buying Microsoft products or stick will hopefully pause and consider this case beforehand. Gsuite works nicely as an office replacement.

This has got to be a joke.

If people want a great office suite, libreoffice is the way to go.

Replacing MS Office with Gsuite is like dumping Al Capone for Jon Gotti.

Re: Electronics-recycling innovator going to prison for trying extend computer lives

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft could have disavowed any claims. Said that the CDs were worth nothing. But they didn't, so they're just as much at fault as the prosecutors are.

Heh, maybe they still will once the press is bad enough. Oh yeah, here we go: https://techcrunch.com/2018/04/27/microsoft-attempts-to-spin... https://blogs.microsoft.com/on-the-issues/2018/04/27/the-fac... Frank X. Shaw "Corporate Vice President, Communications, Microsoft" seems incompetent. This stance (not fully disavowing) is hurting his company much more than helping it. Aaron Swartz committed suicide. It's not a…

Yes, that's lame bullshit from Microsoft.

But why did he print them with Dell labels?

Re: Electronics-recycling innovator going to prison for trying extend computer lives

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post #3

This should be in the news and front page of every tech site. Whenever I bring up the abusive legal behaviour of these big companies or how inherently flawed IP laws are, people either shrug it off or treat me as if I was wearing a tinfoil-hat.

I'm wondering if this is government overzealousness, not something Microsoft particularly cared about (aside from their lawyer perhaps carelessly chiming in). Government has a lot invested in this prosecution: they set up a sting, some prosecutor's reputation is probably on the line. It very much reminds me of the Aarton Swartz case (whose life was destroyed by Carmen Ortiz). Anyway, the article is light on details.

https://blogs.microsoft.com/uploads/prod/sites/5/2018/04/2LU...

https://blogs.microsoft.com/uploads/prod/sites/5/2018/04/FIN...

He went out of his way to create discs that would fool customers. He went out of his way to evade customs inspections, because he knew customs would seize the discs. He sold some of the discs for $3, some for $4, and some for $30-$40. He spent $80,000 creating the discs, and you don't do that for something that has no value.

I don't think he should be in prison for this, but it's clearly criminal behaviour.

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