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I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Background tasks become essential as soon as you need your phone to be a data aggregator for external devices. As an example, if you monitor biomedical sensors on your body, the app needs a way to reliably run in the background without being shot down.

The sensors should store the information inside themselves and then sync with the mobile when I open the app. No need to have my mobile awake all the time for something like that.

Most sensors do tend to store data for backfill upon reconnect the designers are not idiots and have spent a much longer time thinking about this. Off the top of my head, I can immediately think of several reasons you need to pull the data off regularly:

- Data is needed for real time alerting features for the user (e.g. low blood glucose).

- Data needs to be uploaded to cloud services in real time so carers have access to that data so they can also be alerted.

Both of these requirements require timely access to data. A delay can mean the difference between no real impact and "this user is now in hospital".

I find it interesting how you can't expand your horizon to see that these features are useful to somebody that's not you.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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My whole family (parents, sister & her kids, wife & our kids) have switched to iPhones (and macos devices) years ago. Result: 1. no "technical" issues anymore. As the go to IT guy in the family this alone is worth the supposed premium price one pays for the Apple logo. 2. Everything is updated, at all times. 3. "Facebook logs my sms" are a none issues 4. All devices die of old age (even the devices that have since lo…

I've got to say I have the exact opposite experience. It got to the point I now don't do apple/iphone support for family. The number of itunes issues, osx keystore issues, technical issues with phones was taking a lot of time, and user issues with the iphone never ended. My parents, sisters, and any aunts/uncles nearby that I support are all on windows 10 with android phones. My results. 1. Time spend supporting fami…

Moral of the story: anecdotes are not evidence.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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I've had a pixel 2 xl since release. Couple things I'm not seeing mentioned: - My Pixel 2 xl speaker is awful when compared to an iPhone. Many users report the same: https://www.google.com/search?q=pixel+2+speaker+rattle - My Pixel 2 xl proximity sensor will occasionally malfunction, causing the screen to go black when making a call. Also, well documented: https://www.google.com/search?q=pixel+2+proximity+sensor The…

It has been a week since I've got my Pixel 2 XL and I can't agree with you more. Both mine and wife's phone flicker when screen is locked and it is getting really annoying. Considering the price of the phone, this is not acceptable.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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For my job as an app Product Manager, I use several different devices on a daily basis. I also switch between an iPhone and Android phone as my personal device every half year or so, to stay up-to-date with both platforms. I think articles like these are interesting to read, but not relevant anymore. iPhones and high-end Android devices both offer a mature user experience, and you can't objectively say that one is be…

How have you found support between the platforms? I tend to agree with your thoughts here, and this article seems like nothing more than very minor personal taste notes, but I have only used iPhones for the past six years or so. What I have done is support both iPhones and Android devices at work. When someone’s iPhone would break or have issues, I would take it to an Apple store and usually get the issue resolved or…

I recall trying to get support for an odd issue on the Galaxy Nexus - it seems some devices would be unable to connect to 5GHz wifi after a few days or weeks of use, and mine was affected. Probably a hardware fault. Not only did Samsung's staff appear unable to understand the issue, their response was only to reinstall the OS (which took them over a week), which had no effect whatsoever. They claimed that they wouldn't replace it until the OS reinstall had been tried by them three times without success. Before it got to this point I returned it to the supplier for a refund, after wasting a bit of time on "not our problem, for faults contact the manufacturer" and "not our problem, for refunds or replacements contact the vendor". Whether or not this was typical I cannot say, but it did rather put me off.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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My whole family (parents, sister & her kids, wife & our kids) have switched to iPhones (and macos devices) years ago. Result: 1. no "technical" issues anymore. As the go to IT guy in the family this alone is worth the supposed premium price one pays for the Apple logo. 2. Everything is updated, at all times. 3. "Facebook logs my sms" are a none issues 4. All devices die of old age (even the devices that have since lo…

Point 1-4 are true for me since my family switched fully to Linux on any kind of devices.

(and we never used facetime so 5 is a non issue anyway)

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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post #192

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Royally disagree with the headphone jack. That is a huge issue that I don't ever see an end to. You never know when you need a headphone jack and there is no realistic way to carry an adapter all the time. And that is even if I'm willing to buy $100 worth of worthless adapters and do my best to sprinkle them out in my life. Friends car? Stereo in the summer vacation house? Buying bluetooth headphones doesn't mitigate…

I'm willing to believe that you never know when you need a headphone jack but most people actually do know when they will need a headphone jack. Going on a plane? Probably bring an adapter. Like to listen to music in your car? Keep an adapter in your car. Listen to music at work? Keep an adapter at work.

Everything I need is in my backpack. There is seriously no place for a selection of different dongles.

I understand it may is a non issue for some people, for others however it is not even a real option.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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post #198

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When my 80 year old dad went from Android to iPhone, the mistakes went up and his ability to get things done went down. Cognitively, he's the same, so it's not that. Maybe he was ruined by using Android first. For example, he never used to send texts to my home phone number. Now half of them are, though I seem to have got him to switch to email. He still can only send me pictures from his phone about 1 out of 4 times…

My parents almost solely used windows. I had an old macbook and gave it to them and they had a very hard time adjusting to the new UI, they kept asking for the Start menu. Remember when Windows 8 came out and people were asking for the start menu? > Cognitively, he's the same, so it's not that. When did he learn android? It's much harder for older people to learn new things especially when they're used to something e…

Funnily enough when I introduced my parents and grandma to Linux (Ubuntu 2013/14) they all went from nagging me constantly with small issues to bashing on how shitty Windows was.

IMO a good ui concept doesn't need explanation. However many people never know because they never used one.

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