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Amazon threatens to suspend Signal's AWS account over censorship circumvention

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Re: Amazon threatens to suspend Signal's AWS account over censorship circumvention

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I still don't understand why would Google or Amazon care about this, and why it's against their ToS. Do they think that some of those states may block all kind of access to their IP blocks just because of some people using Signal?

Collateral damage...

Re: Amazon threatens to suspend Signal's AWS account over censorship circumvention

#22
This is nothing to do with censorship. AWS has many clients and does not want its network to be blocked because of a single customer. Tough for Signal but that's how it is when dealing with businesses (especially one that so many others rely on).

The same thing just happened with Telegram in Russia which explains the preemptive messages: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/04/in-ef...

Re: Amazon threatens to suspend Signal's AWS account over censorship circumvention

#25

What was it that convinced Google and Amazon to no longer allow this particular censorship evasion?

Russia made it clear that they would block AWS and Google Cloud if domain fronting was allowed to continue.

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/04/in-ef...

As moxie says in the blog post

>The idea behind domain fronting was that to block a single site, you’d have to block the rest of the internet as well. In the end, the rest of the internet didn’t like that plan.

Re: Amazon threatens to suspend Signal's AWS account over censorship circumvention

#27
You want to use the resources and influence of a large corporation to acheive your organizations goals. They don’t have to be on board with your mission, and it’s arrogant to think so IMO. Why should they let you do it, when they won’t allow it for others? Seems like you feel entitled because you think by default people should support what you’re trying to do.

The flipside of free speech you’re ignoring is that people get to abstain from using their voice in addition to using it.

Re: Amazon threatens to suspend Signal's AWS account over censorship circumvention

#28

What was it that convinced Google and Amazon to no longer allow this particular censorship evasion?

It's about how an IP range assigned to a country establishes nexus, and a service that operates within this jurisdiction must abide by said country's laws.

Re: Amazon threatens to suspend Signal's AWS account over censorship circumvention

#30
Can someone explain how does one serve content on a domain they don't own, like in this case Souq.com? Do they shove their content to something like product reviews or what?

EDIT: I realized they use souqcdn.com. Does this mean it works because their clients use "souqcdn.com" to resolve to CloudFront CDN's IP address and then they craft a different Host header (like "Host: api.signal.org").

Also how can they possibly use CDN for this? As far as I know, CDN works only with GET requests, so how are they doing a chat app on this?

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