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BigCommerce raises $64M to power e-commerce sites

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Re: BigCommerce raises $64M to power e-commerce sites

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I’ve never had a worse webdev experience than attempting to create a BigCommerce theme. There are hundreds of theme files, and a maddeningly incomplete and inconsistent templating tag system.

I was so jealous (as I was creating hundreds of duplicative templates) of Shopify and their Liquid templating language.

I now hate BigCommerce for being so hard to work with.

Re: BigCommerce raises $64M to power e-commerce sites

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One of the worst and most indicative things about the Shopify developer ecosystem is that there is no first-class support for source control - of any type - in Shopify's online theme editing system. It is expected that if you wish to integrate any nontrivial application, you'll give access to your full admin panel to low-paid, marginally-English-speaking integration techs at the app developers, and they will edit you…

just use shopify slate and github

We already do for our core theme development... but I have never seen an app integration team be willing to use anything other than the native interface.

Re: BigCommerce raises $64M to power e-commerce sites

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It looks like BigCommerce offers single sign on for customer accounts[0], which Shopify charges an outrageous $2K/month to turn on with their Plus plan. Does anyone know what tier of BC supports SSO? [0] https://www.bigcommerce.com/login-api/

That particular feature (or, API endpoint) isn't something that's restricted by plan or tier on BigCommerce. It does work slightly differently in terms of functionality to what Shopify call Multipass, which is probably worth calling out. Ultimately you can accomplish the same functionality (on the fly account creation, address management, and SSO based login) with a few calls to the customer API endpoint. We talk mor…

Thanks! Any chance you know of a sample static React frontend example for BigCommerce? It looks like it should be possible to use the API to bypass the BigCommerce templating and just make a conventional static React site with BigCommerce API backinng it. I’ve done this for Shopify sites (painful but mostly possible) and am thinking about porting the sites to BigCommerce because I don’t want to pay Shopify $2K/mo/store just to get SSO. It’s not a huge deal for me if there’s no boilerplate on how to do this, unless you think there’s some core thing that I couldn’t in principle pull off over the API.

Re: BigCommerce raises $64M to power e-commerce sites

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I don't understand how companies like Big Commerce and WP Engine, which have raised hundreds of millions of dollars and have 10's of thousands of business customers are "growth stage startups." I don't understand how they are startups at all. They are businesses. Is the fact that they are unprofitable the thing that makes them startups?

For what it's worth WP Engine didn't raise "hundreds of millions of dollars." Their most recent round was a PE deal that resulted in the investor taking a controlling interest in the company. Most of the $250 million figure went to buying out option holders. I worked there for 2.5 years (a great experience) and it mostly felt like a mature business rather than a growth stage startup.

I worked there too back when it actually was a growth stage startup. What you say only further proves the point: I don't understand how it is a "startup" when there is no exit left for founders and employees. Their exit pretty much happened already.

Re: BigCommerce raises $64M to power e-commerce sites

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for example not being able to specify that this product weighs 80 pounds and is shipped in two separate pieces. Shipping 1 large box costs less than shipping 2 boxes half the size and this was making us lose money on automatically calculated UPS shipping fees

I agree it's frustrating. I have founded a company that develops only B2B ecommerce solutions and it's much more complicated than B2C. There are soooo many different combinations of how you can do certain thing, and in most cases you need to adapt the software to existing process instead of improving it. There was a comment that most of these solutions are slow, know you know why. We do a lot of integrations with ERP…

what's the company name? if its not a big secret since you created a throwaway just to post this reply:)

Re: BigCommerce raises $64M to power e-commerce sites

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Shopify lied to me while I was evaluating it and said if I signed up for a subscription then they'd allow me to fix the colour of the checkout button. They host the checkout process on their own site and automatically swapped the text colour to the opposite of the rest of my site. After I signed up they basically said tough sh!t, they don't actually have a way to change the button text colour.

Shopify plus allow you to adjust the checkout styling and template.

I wasn't going to pay hundreds of dollars per month to change the colour of a button.

I did mention that when they said some rubbish about it being for security etc. If it's insecure then why allow it if I pay more?

But yeah, you're right. I guess they lied to me twice.

To be clear, they did say they'd change it for me if I signed up to any plan.

Re: BigCommerce raises $64M to power e-commerce sites

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BigCommerce ships with a lot more features for B2B and enterprise out of the box, than Shopify. To get a Shopify store configured to the B2B & enterprise features of BigCommerce you need a fair amount of 3rd party apps, bubblegum and duct tape

Actually if you want a serious B2B tool set Shopify wants you to get ShopifyPlus thats 2000 per month, 12 months upfront and no free trial.

I love Shopify and Shopify Plus, have worked with their team very closely on many large re-platform projects and I have to say for B2B it is getting there, very slowly, but still miles away from being B2B enterprise-ready without a significant amount of custom build work, hacks, apps and workarounds.

There are so many issues with Shopify Plus for B2B use cases that it's hard to recommend unless the store is very simplistic.

Re: BigCommerce raises $64M to power e-commerce sites

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I haven't tried Shopify for a real shop, neither have I Big Commerce or any other e-commerce engine. There're downsides to such engines one of them being is that they're not completely customizable a way you may want to. And I simply have built my e-shop engine, by myself and from scratch.

Shopify looks decent, I let my inspiration come from it.

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