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Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by banku_brougham »

craftyguy wrote: post #359
ibdf wrote: post #333

It's clear from reading the threads in here that user experience on either side is not consistent. That's fine, get what works for you. If you have an android and it's not working for you, then switch to an iphone, and vice versa. Try a flip phone if you need simplicity. What I don't get it... is this fanboyism, this loyalty to a company that knows you as close as a number on a spreadsheet and a dollar amount on thei…

I can't wait for the Librem5 phone. Both mainstream options, whether it's Apple or Android, are terrible.

This idea as presented would be perfect for me. But will they really implement a strong security model? Only time and a lot of third party review, and users, will tell.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by thomastjeffery »

laken wrote: post #220
Joeri wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My wife once bought an 8 GB iPhone 4, and regretted it pretty much immediately. That was a horrible experience, and I was stunned that apple would sell such a thing. So far I've learned it pans out this way for iOS devices: - 16 GB: the bare minimum for any sort of user. Don't expect to be taking a lot of pictures or use a lot of apps without a lot of storage twiddling. - 32 GB: fine for regular app use, avoid if you…

I had a 16GB iPhone 6 for years, and when I went to upgrade to an iPhone 8 recently, I was upset that the 16GB wasn't an option anymore. I have no need for 64GB of storage (the new minimum on the 8), because my phone is a phone, not a computer.

It's because the hardware isn't any cheaper for Apple to have manufactured. They still arbitrarily inflate the prices, which makes it seem like 16gb would be much cheaper to manufacture than 64gb, but that is only a facade.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by toasterlovin »

ekianjo wrote: post #248
YouKnowBetter wrote: post #136

My whole family (parents, sister & her kids, wife & our kids) have switched to iPhones (and macos devices) years ago. Result: 1. no "technical" issues anymore. As the go to IT guy in the family this alone is worth the supposed premium price one pays for the Apple logo. 2. Everything is updated, at all times. 3. "Facebook logs my sms" are a none issues 4. All devices die of old age (even the devices that have since lo…

> Result: You forgot: 6. You now all live in Walled gardens.

It's funny, just this last weekend, I installed a wall around our garden at home. It's been a tremendous improvement.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by jvannistelrooy »

microtonal wrote: post #236
jvannistelrooy wrote: post #129

For my job as an app Product Manager, I use several different devices on a daily basis. I also switch between an iPhone and Android phone as my personal device every half year or so, to stay up-to-date with both platforms. I think articles like these are interesting to read, but not relevant anymore. iPhones and high-end Android devices both offer a mature user experience, and you can't objectively say that one is be…

iPhones and high-end Android devices both offer a mature user experience, and you can't objectively say that one is better than the other. I agree. Both are great. It boils down mostly to: - Are you in the Google ecosystem: Google Apps are greater on Android. - Do you use a Mac: iDevices and Macs do handoff (you can take your phone calls on the Mac, continue typing an e-mail on your iDevice, etc.). - How many years a…

> I agree. Both are great. It boils down mostly to:

You make a couple of good points, but I think it's again down to your personal situation and taste that makes it "boil down" to these points.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by sorenjan »

mathgeek wrote: post #341
uhhhhhhh wrote: post #277

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've got to say I have the exact opposite experience. It got to the point I now don't do apple/iphone support for family. The number of itunes issues, osx keystore issues, technical issues with phones was taking a lot of time, and user issues with the iphone never ended. My parents, sisters, and any aunts/uncles nearby that I support are all on windows 10 with android phones. My results. 1. Time spend supporting fami…

> There is a subset of the family that uses facetime, they don't talk to the rest of us as often anymore. To me, this is one of the greatest shortcomings of video chat. We went from a universal phone system to a mostly universal SMS system (most private networks still supported SMS) to a segregated video chat system, and it hurts relationships if you're not careful.

We had video chat before the iPhone. It's part of the UMTS standard and was one of the major selling points when the carriers rolled it out in the early 2000's. I don't know much about its technical merits, it would surprise me if it was any good using today's standards, but it was cross platform and could have been built upon if the two new mobile OS makers had been interested. But since the iPhone didn't even have UMTS when it was launched it's no surprise Apple didn't include support for it.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by 120bits »

I switched to iPhone for many reasons, but the main reason was SERVICE. I owned a HTC and then Samsung. I had issues with both the phones at some point in time. Yes things can go bad. I can't take my android phone to a local store to get it fixed. I need to send the phone to them, get a backup phone, port all my contacts to the other phone. But if I have a issue with my iPhone all I need to do is book an appointment at Genius bar, and they take care of the rest. At least I know I can talk to a real person face to face to fix the issue with my phone.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by driverdan »

Saaster wrote: post #168

I wish I could switch to the iPhone, and I've tried several times. The hardware is excellent. But these are my deal-breakers that keep me on Android (I've only ever had Google Nexus / Pixel phones): - Lastpass or any other password manager on iPhone is a joke, requiring multiple convoluted steps and using the "share" menu in the browser because of the Apple lock-down. Lastpass on Android? Click the password field in…

To be fair Lastpass is pretty bad on Android too. At least half the time it won't recognize login dialog, requiring the user to swap between apps and copy + paste. They recently dropped support for Firefox.

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Post by Bucephalus355 »

snowwrestler wrote: post #376
ibdf wrote: post #333

It's clear from reading the threads in here that user experience on either side is not consistent. That's fine, get what works for you. If you have an android and it's not working for you, then switch to an iphone, and vice versa. Try a flip phone if you need simplicity. What I don't get it... is this fanboyism, this loyalty to a company that knows you as close as a number on a spreadsheet and a dollar amount on thei…

You should definitely buy an iPhone, and if you're wondering why I feel so strongly about it, the answer is that I have a lot of money in AAPL. (Companies are not the only ones with spreadsheets...) ;-)

Lol almost made me spit out my morning coffee with your response. Great job :)

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by checkyoursudo »

Saaster wrote: post #168

I wish I could switch to the iPhone, and I've tried several times. The hardware is excellent. But these are my deal-breakers that keep me on Android (I've only ever had Google Nexus / Pixel phones): - Lastpass or any other password manager on iPhone is a joke, requiring multiple convoluted steps and using the "share" menu in the browser because of the Apple lock-down. Lastpass on Android? Click the password field in…

Just checked on my iPhone and to log in on a website, it's tap in the field, select the user/pass, login. And on an app, it's tap in the field, tap the key icon, pick the user/pass I want to use, auth with fingerprint, login. [edit: just to say, it's actually tap the key, auth with fingerprint, then pick user/pass -- I reversed the order of auth/pick by mistake.]

I don't understand the convolution? Doesn't seem like an excessive number of steps either.

Am I missing something?

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by hocuspocus »

120bits wrote: post #386

I switched to iPhone for many reasons, but the main reason was SERVICE. I owned a HTC and then Samsung. I had issues with both the phones at some point in time. Yes things can go bad. I can't take my android phone to a local store to get it fixed. I need to send the phone to them, get a backup phone, port all my contacts to the other phone. But if I have a issue with my iPhone all I need to do is book an appointment…

With a Nexus or Pixel, all you'd have to do is contact the customer service and wait for your replacement device.

I never really understood the love for booking appointments and going in person to crowded Apple stores.

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