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I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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One of the author's frustrations is actually already present in iOS: > There’s a super-easy clear all link which is fantastic and hits at my #1 pet peeve w/ iOS’s design: the iOS notifications give me more work to do, not less If you force touch on the topmost (x) in the iOS notification dropdown, you get an option to clear all notifications. However, I only recently discovered this myself, after using each iOS since…

I got an iPhone X after having a 6+ (and several others back to the second-gen iPhone, the 3G). I immediately turned off Force Touch.

I find the cognitive load of having three unknown things happen at any time (touch, long touch, force touch, plus who knows whatever else kind of touch they may have) way, way too high, and the value non-existent.

It was also nearly impossible for me to know what did what, or how to get a long-touch separated from a force-touch.

I would be 100% content if Force Touch entirely disappeared. I don't see the problem it addresses and experienced first hand problems it causes. Example: I could hardly figure out how to move apps around in springboard (or whatever the home screen is called these days) or cancel apps in the task switcher with it on.

Maybe I'm a luddite, but I would really have preferred an iPhone 6+ "v2" with the same CPU and camera as the iPhone X - but none of the other stuff it brought (like color-changing OLED screen, nigh unusable Face ID, lack of a 3.5mm audio port). But, when your boss generously gives you an iPhone X it would be disrespectful not to use it.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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I'm willing to believe that you never know when you need a headphone jack but most people actually do know when they will need a headphone jack. Going on a plane? Probably bring an adapter. Like to listen to music in your car? Keep an adapter in your car. Listen to music at work? Keep an adapter at work.

> Going on a plane? Probably bring an adapter. Like to listen to music in your car? Keep an adapter in your car. Listen to music at work? Keep an adapter at work. So, I should have travel, car & work adapters instead of a working, non-proprietary, universal standard? Headphone jacks work . They work really well . There's nothing wrong with them, and they don’t need replacement. Bluetooth sometimes works, and sometime…

You can if you don't want to keep track of a single adapter. I personally have two, one for the car and one for everywhere else.

You can blame Apple for using lightning if you have problems with non universal, non proprietary standards. USB C is both universal and non proprietary. It's even capable of sending analog audio exactly like the 3.5mm port does so you don't need an adapter with a DAC in it, just a USB C -> whatever you want to plug your phone into cable.

That said, most phones (including my Pixel 2) don't support that feature and require an external DAC in the adapter. I only bring it up because many people don't seem to realize that USB C is capable of doing anything the 3.5mm port can do.

>Headphone jacks work. They work really well. There's nothing wrong with them, and they don’t need replacement.

The PS/2 ports worked for your mouse and keyboard. They did have some issues but I would be okay with saying that they worked really well. They didn't need to be replaced with USB. They were replaced with USB anyways. That's the whole point of USB. It's universal. As long as USB is capable of transmitting audio then there is no reason to keep the 3.5mm port around. It's redundant.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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The iPhone walled garden is what gets my goat, particularly when it comes to the impact it's had on my children. Combined with an observation that there is a distinct subset of people who buy iPhones who seem uninterested in how technology works or engaging deeply in solving technology interop problems when things go wrong. I get that's part of the feedback loop -- you buy an iPhone because "ack, technology! I just w…

Full ACK. However, I'm optimistic, kids can be educated and evventually some of them will be interested in understanding how tech works, digging deeper and deeper and getting used to the hacker culture.

These families where luxurious old IPhones are available plentifully are probably a bit odd, but for the purpose of hacking, IPhones are not too bad. They can be rooted, they have good hardware on board and batteries which last a decade. When I was young, I only had old lame personal computers from the household trash. I whish I had portable devices to play with! :-)

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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The real answer here is to use the lightning -> 3.5mm adapter which comes with the iPhone, I believe.

But then I cannot plug my headphones into my brand new laptop...

Well, you could remove the headphones from the adapter and plug them into your laptops 3.5mm port.

If Apple was using USB C like they should be, then you could just plug them straight into that port.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Interesting to read this since I'm considering getting an iPhone; so far I've only used Android. Does anyone have comments who has done the switch in that direction?

I made the switch from Android (always used Samsung or Nexus devices) to iOS two years ago.

My two issues with iOS: - Siri is absolute trash. I've given up on using it for text messages. Even when just using it for timers it fucks up. It's basically a 50/50 chance it will interpret things like "3 and a half minutes" as "3 to a half minutes". Whenever it does this it then says something like "I don't understand what time you want". I literally never had Google mess up a timer. - Apple insistence on making you use their apps has gotten better, but it's still annoying. I still run into cases where it tries to open links in Safari (my default browser is chrome) or open directions in Maps ( I use Google maps).

Outside of those things I really love iOS.

My biggest reasons for switching was horrid privacy controls on Android(which have improved since I left) and device degrading rates. Every Android phone or tablet I owned would slow down terribly and have a noticeable dip in battery quality within 1 1/2 years. It was like clockwork. Luckily this hasn't been the case for me on iOS. I will hit the two year mark with this phone in the summer and it's still running and holding a charge like the day I got it. I used to get a new phone every two year religiously but this is the first time I am going wait it out.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Jack is overrated. I have it and don't use it at all after buying airpods.

So apple removes a part that costs less then a cent and gets you to purchase $180 headphones? I don't mean to be snarky, by having to swap adapters and no option from Apple to charge and use headphones at the same time irritates me. My iPhone 7 might force me back to android after really liking my iPhone 6.

As an iPhone user, I'm holding out for the rumors I've heard about another revamped iPhone SE that will include a headphone jack.

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> Makes sense: normally, these apps (and other “bloatware”) are pre-installed on phones when you buy them from a carrier.

However the iOS one "just works". Disclaimer: I hate voice mail with a passion. Not using it unless I really think it might be something important.

> There’s a super-easy clear all link which is fantastic

Force touch the first close icon to close all on iOS. Which is absolutely terrible in terms of UX.

> Universal back function: It’s great having a global “affordance” for the super-common thing that people want to do. It works well, too: its meaning subtly changing in the right way, depending what you’re going back from.

However you're guessing what you're actually going back to since there's no visual indicator. The location is super perfect at the bottom row. Missed opportunity for the iPhone X which has screen real-estate on the bottom.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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post #313

The iPhone walled garden is what gets my goat, particularly when it comes to the impact it's had on my children. Combined with an observation that there is a distinct subset of people who buy iPhones who seem uninterested in how technology works or engaging deeply in solving technology interop problems when things go wrong. I get that's part of the feedback loop -- you buy an iPhone because "ack, technology! I just w…

The iMessage thing sucks, I can see similar issues happening in other contexts however (like people getting bullied into using Facebook for example).

To be honest, I mostly see Android users trying to defining people by which phone they use. Talking about walled gardens and gullible people willing to pay the “Apple tax”. Particularly in the tech community there seems to be a subset of people that think using an iPhone is “stupid”.

To me Android and iOS both seem to have issues. Which you use is up to you. We’re in a sucky situation where you either get a phone designed by an advertising company or a phone that is entirely closed source (and limited to a single vendor).

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post #313

The iPhone walled garden is what gets my goat, particularly when it comes to the impact it's had on my children. Combined with an observation that there is a distinct subset of people who buy iPhones who seem uninterested in how technology works or engaging deeply in solving technology interop problems when things go wrong. I get that's part of the feedback loop -- you buy an iPhone because "ack, technology! I just w…

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Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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I was a devout Android user, ever since the first Android phone came out, but after back to back horrible experiences (the first OnePlus and the Nexus 6), I ditched Android for the iPhone and haven't looked back. Much better hardware quality and the ecosystem works extremely well.
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