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I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by untog »

Saaster wrote: post #168

I wish I could switch to the iPhone, and I've tried several times. The hardware is excellent. But these are my deal-breakers that keep me on Android (I've only ever had Google Nexus / Pixel phones): - Lastpass or any other password manager on iPhone is a joke, requiring multiple convoluted steps and using the "share" menu in the browser because of the Apple lock-down. Lastpass on Android? Click the password field in…

Interesting - I've been switching between the two for a while and have the opposite conclusion!

I use 1Password and filling out passwords on iOS is actually better in Safari than it was on Android Chrome. It's not that convoluted at all: share button, hit 1Password, tap the site entry on my password list. Done. By contrast, I had all kinds of issues on Android with the 1Password button not appearing sometimes, or failing at other times (it was an accessibility hack, so I suspect they were doing the best they could)

I also found the Google apps to be of comparable quality. Maps, Play Music and Inbox are all but identical. I'm also quite content to diversify my data a little and depend on Google less. I even switched the iOS default search engine to DuckDuckGo.

And as a last point: Google Photos is available on iOS. And works fantastically.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by dspillett »

matte_black wrote: post #212
tjoff wrote: post #192

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Royally disagree with the headphone jack. That is a huge issue that I don't ever see an end to. You never know when you need a headphone jack and there is no realistic way to carry an adapter all the time. And that is even if I'm willing to buy $100 worth of worthless adapters and do my best to sprinkle them out in my life. Friends car? Stereo in the summer vacation house? Buying bluetooth headphones doesn't mitigate…

Many stereos and cars should accept Bluetooth connections by now, so I’m not sure what the problem is.

The problem is that people want a headphone jack.

More stereos and cars don't have BT than do (significantly many more in my experience). Bluetooth pairing is a faf compared to just plugging in a jack, and many devices still only remember pairing with two devices or just one so your friend may have to repair when you are done. Double adaptors (I still see people sharing a single audio source on headphones that way) are a thing with simple audio jack that there isn't a BT solution for (at least when I've tried phones won't play down two BT audio sinks at the same time).

I've used the audio jack on my phones only a couple of times in the last year or so as I do use BT for general headphone use, but that is a couple of times more than zero and in all those cases BT would not have been an option.

Of course the obvious answer is: if you want a jack and Apple doesn't provide one on their devices then switch allegiance - but a lot of people feel tied to Apple for other reasons (lock in through apps they'd have to repurchase on Android, lock-in through add-on device compatibility, or just the extra usability that comes from personal or group familiarity) and would like to stay without losing that feature.

Another option is bluetooth receivers, which can be bought quite cheaply these days: pair one of those with your iDevice and plug other devices into that when needed. That is an extra device (a very small one, but still an extra) to carry around and remember to keep charged and I doubt it will happen much because people won't even carry charging adaptors around with them (the amount of times I've have the look that suggests it is my fault that someone can't borrow my portable battery because their device doesn't follow the same standard as everything else and they didn't bring an adaptor!)

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by Wildgoose »

eksemplar wrote: post #62
Wildgoose wrote: post #47

I have an iPhone SE because it has a headphone jack. But if the SE 2 doesn't have a headphone jack then this will be my last iPhone. My son wants to replace his iPhone, he's just waiting to see if the SE 2 has a headphone jack as well, or he will be switching to Android. Some of us like being able to charge our phone and use it to listen to music in our cars using the AUX input of our car stereos. Plus have a wider c…

You know the pixel 2 doesn’t have a headphone jack either, right? Apple may have been first movers, but everyone is following.

Yes, of course I know that - but most of the Android eco-system (which is huge) does have a headphone jack.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by boudin »

ubernostrum wrote: post #225
boudin wrote: post #170

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I don't see how Apple is better with privacy. I get it's a big part of their marketing, but it's.... marketing. Phone still comes with siri, with apps you can't remove, with location tracking. Apple cloud is, as all clouds, you giving away your data to Apple, so you end up having to trust them blindly. I know it's not part of their business model so far, but they still collect and own a lot of your data. As long as a…

Apple is "better with privacy" because Apple's model is to have you pay for things with your money instead of with your personal data. If you really have a difficult time distinguishing any difference between Apple's and Google's business models, I don't know how to even begin explaining to you.

I'm not speaking about business model but about privacy. That's two totally different subjects. I agree on the business model part, but it doesn't make apple better than google on privacy. Apple still own a lot of your data gathered through the app installed.

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Post by RandallBrown »

teekert wrote: post #55

I'm thinking of going from android to iPhone for privacy reasons. But, whenever I hold an iPhone that list of notification puts me off, in android they are grouped, meaning 3 new exchange mails is 1 notification, I can pull on the notification to expand the 3 and then even more for every email. Short replies can be done inline in the notification even. I use that constantly. You can also swipe away a notification gro…

iOS lets you reply inline on messages.

Grouping notifications is something that iOS can do, but it's up to the app to do it and most don't.

I don't see why you couldn't SSH into your server with the right iOS app. Not sure how easy it will be to use it as a proxy, but there are VPN apps on iOS so I imagine it's possible.

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Post by ams6110 »

laken wrote: post #220
Joeri wrote: post #151

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My wife once bought an 8 GB iPhone 4, and regretted it pretty much immediately. That was a horrible experience, and I was stunned that apple would sell such a thing. So far I've learned it pans out this way for iOS devices: - 16 GB: the bare minimum for any sort of user. Don't expect to be taking a lot of pictures or use a lot of apps without a lot of storage twiddling. - 32 GB: fine for regular app use, avoid if you…

I had a 16GB iPhone 6 for years, and when I went to upgrade to an iPhone 8 recently, I was upset that the 16GB wasn't an option anymore. I have no need for 64GB of storage (the new minimum on the 8), because my phone is a phone, not a computer.

Yeah I'm sort of boggling at this. I have a 16GB Android phone that I've used for about 2 years, and it's only half full.

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Post by krrrh »

YouKnowBetter wrote: post #136

My whole family (parents, sister & her kids, wife & our kids) have switched to iPhones (and macos devices) years ago. Result: 1. no "technical" issues anymore. As the go to IT guy in the family this alone is worth the supposed premium price one pays for the Apple logo. 2. Everything is updated, at all times. 3. "Facebook logs my sms" are a none issues 4. All devices die of old age (even the devices that have since lo…

For iPhone to iPhone migration and encrypted backups:

https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT205220

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Post by dspillett »

iaml wrote: post #197
baldfat wrote: post #163

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My anecdotal evidence has been the opposite. My daughter has always been an Apple user and she has had so many more issues with her phone. Either she never upgraded her phone due to storage limitations because she refused to uninstall certain apps. He screen twice has twice peeled off. The battery expanded and now it glitches every hour but she is stuck because there is NO HEAD PHONE JACK. So she keeps saying do I bu…

Jack is overrated. I have it and don't use it at all after buying airpods.

Not using something you don't have doesn't mean you wouldn't use it if you did. And even if you wouldn't, your needs are not the same as absolutely everyone elses.

This argument would be like me saying I don't know why people would want a car. I don't have one, and I walk or cycle or use public transport so don't use the one I don't have.

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Post by grincho »

sergiotapia wrote: post #222
YouKnowBetter wrote: post #136

My whole family (parents, sister & her kids, wife & our kids) have switched to iPhones (and macos devices) years ago. Result: 1. no "technical" issues anymore. As the go to IT guy in the family this alone is worth the supposed premium price one pays for the Apple logo. 2. Everything is updated, at all times. 3. "Facebook logs my sms" are a none issues 4. All devices die of old age (even the devices that have since lo…

Completely mirrors my experience as well. My wife used to have a Note and she would constantly have issues with the phone that I would have to deal with. Since buying her an iphone 6 years ago, ZERO issues. NO tech support from me. That alone is worth the price of admission. Same with dropbox, I pay the $99/yr gladly because it means my wife isn't asking me about the baby photos and if they're safe in the flash drive…

Make sure you have another copy; flash does degrade over time.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by amdavidson »

8fingerlouie wrote: post #95
atl4s wrote: post #60

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I use an app called Blink ( http://www.blink.sh/ ) on iOS to manage servers on the move, has mosh support as well for areas with spotty cell service.

I have yet to try Blink. I find it somewhat expensive. Panic makes a cheaper (SSH only) app : https://panic.com/prompt/

You can compile Blink yourself and sideload it in Xcode.

https://github.com/blinksh/blink

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