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Post by madshiva »

YouKnowBetter wrote: post #136

My whole family (parents, sister & her kids, wife & our kids) have switched to iPhones (and macos devices) years ago. Result: 1. no "technical" issues anymore. As the go to IT guy in the family this alone is worth the supposed premium price one pays for the Apple logo. 2. Everything is updated, at all times. 3. "Facebook logs my sms" are a none issues 4. All devices die of old age (even the devices that have since lo…

I don't know why you get upvoted with so many false arguing.

1. I don't have technical issue.

2. Same apply with good android, you know the one that you don't buy.

3. I don't care about Facebook. Facebook as an argument...

4. What is revelent with this point?

5. Discord? Any other that Facetime beat it.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by matte_black »

tjoff wrote: post #192
matwood wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Siri is definitely Apples biggest weakness, but the headphone jack? The phone comes with a little adapter. If you're a person who has tons of nice headphones laying around, but a couple more adapters and call it a day. Is it a bit of inconvenience at first? Sure, but don't act like there is no way to plug in headphones or that it's the end of the world. And Duo? I'm a tech person and I can't keep all of the Google co…

Royally disagree with the headphone jack. That is a huge issue that I don't ever see an end to. You never know when you need a headphone jack and there is no realistic way to carry an adapter all the time. And that is even if I'm willing to buy $100 worth of worthless adapters and do my best to sprinkle them out in my life. Friends car? Stereo in the summer vacation house? Buying bluetooth headphones doesn't mitigate…

Many stereos and cars should accept Bluetooth connections by now, so I’m not sure what the problem is.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by no1youknowz »

wycy wrote: post #160
no1youknowz wrote: post #120

I know a lot of this is anecdotal... My Mom who is 77, has had a few Androids. Always calling her Sons to help fix her phone. She bought cheap phones for a couple of hundred dollars, but always limited the Ram, but had plenty of storage. WhatsApp, Skype, Facebook would constantly fill it up and many times you'd have to clear out all the apps, clear the storage on the phone, etc, etc. Then I would have to explain to h…

> is 77 > Never heard from her again. You might want to check up on her to make sure it's just the phone.

LOL, she's fine. I mean't the number of phone related issues.

You want to know something else? I hardly ever use my iPhone and she's become a much better user.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by laken »

intended wrote: post #207
matwood wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Siri is definitely Apples biggest weakness, but the headphone jack? The phone comes with a little adapter. If you're a person who has tons of nice headphones laying around, but a couple more adapters and call it a day. Is it a bit of inconvenience at first? Sure, but don't act like there is no way to plug in headphones or that it's the end of the world. And Duo? I'm a tech person and I can't keep all of the Google co…

Head phone jack is a big issue. I have no desire to keep one on me at all times on the off chance that I will need it. I just stop listening to music or using the device for that use case. Basically dropping the functionality of the phone significantly, unless I’m home or near my tech storage locker. This is assanine design.

Why not just keep the dongle attached to your headphones?

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by andrepd »

YouKnowBetter wrote: post #136

My whole family (parents, sister & her kids, wife & our kids) have switched to iPhones (and macos devices) years ago. Result: 1. no "technical" issues anymore. As the go to IT guy in the family this alone is worth the supposed premium price one pays for the Apple logo. 2. Everything is updated, at all times. 3. "Facebook logs my sms" are a none issues 4. All devices die of old age (even the devices that have since lo…

1. I don't understand, why would Android phones have more technical problems than Android? I don't recall experiencing any major problems in 8 years of having android phones, and I've even experimented with custom ROMs and kernels and the like.

2. Granted, updates are an issue. Not with very popular and/or Google-supported phones, like the pixel.

3. Why so? How do you know fb doesn't spy on your sms?

4. Do they? Or do they stop working because updates cripple older phones' performance and battery to make you buy new ones?

5. Pure marketing nonsense.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by no1youknowz »

eddieroger wrote: post #184
no1youknowz wrote: post #120

I know a lot of this is anecdotal... My Mom who is 77, has had a few Androids. Always calling her Sons to help fix her phone. She bought cheap phones for a couple of hundred dollars, but always limited the Ram, but had plenty of storage. WhatsApp, Skype, Facebook would constantly fill it up and many times you'd have to clear out all the apps, clear the storage on the phone, etc, etc. Then I would have to explain to h…

> My time is mission critical, I can't spend 1 hour debugging a phone and talking to someone who just wants to use a device as non-technical as possible as anything complicated with be forgotten. This is off topic and the stuff of downvotes, but you're not talking about "someone," you're talking about your mother. I value my time as much as the next developer, but I would hope to never be so busy that I can't take an…

> but you're not talking about "someone," you're talking about your mother.

You are exactly right. Of course I help her with other issues whenever I can. But when an issue comes up again and again and again and it becomes a contentious issue because of the "phone". Not only that, when relatives from abroad want to communicate and they can't because of an app that is failing. The whole thing becomes a more serious issue. Something had to change.

Now there are no problems. In fact, she does more things with this phone than other before. Like facetime-ing, etc. She says it's just so much easier to use than before.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by madshiva »

no1youknowz wrote: post #120

I know a lot of this is anecdotal... My Mom who is 77, has had a few Androids. Always calling her Sons to help fix her phone. She bought cheap phones for a couple of hundred dollars, but always limited the Ram, but had plenty of storage. WhatsApp, Skype, Facebook would constantly fill it up and many times you'd have to clear out all the apps, clear the storage on the phone, etc, etc. Then I would have to explain to h…

Wrong comparision, totally biasied.

You give them a poor android with 16Go at max, and on the other way give them an iphone with 64Go and yes you can install application on the SD, if you paid for a correct phone.

The phone just works apply the same with Android users regarding Iphone users.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by psyc »

matwood wrote: post #174
baldfat wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My anecdotal evidence has been the opposite. My daughter has always been an Apple user and she has had so many more issues with her phone. Either she never upgraded her phone due to storage limitations because she refused to uninstall certain apps. He screen twice has twice peeled off. The battery expanded and now it glitches every hour but she is stuck because there is NO HEAD PHONE JACK. So she keeps saying do I bu…

Siri is definitely Apples biggest weakness, but the headphone jack? The phone comes with a little adapter. If you're a person who has tons of nice headphones laying around, but a couple more adapters and call it a day. Is it a bit of inconvenience at first? Sure, but don't act like there is no way to plug in headphones or that it's the end of the world. And Duo? I'm a tech person and I can't keep all of the Google co…

I have one pair of nice headphones. One. The adapter is an inconvenience I don't need. I've had my iPhone 7 for a year and this is still a vexing issue.

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Post by taneq »

ttflee wrote: post #149
aeontech wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FWIW, I move my family between iPhones every year and haven’t noticed any data loss. One exception to date is WeChat, for some godforsaken reason they only back up the most recent dozen conversations or so, so if you want your entire history, you have to jump through hoops to initialize a device-to-device transfer over WiFi, which can take an entire night in worst case. Would be curious to hear what kind of data loss…

Be cautious using WeChat. If the Chinese authority could retrieve something from the device, the U.S. authority must be able, too. https://www.androidheadlines.com/2018/04/confirmed-deleted-w...

Why would they need to recover them from a device at all? Do they not just get chat logs bcc'd to them as a matter of course?

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by laken »

Joeri wrote: post #151
canuckintime wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My aunt bought a 'cheap' iPhone (SE, 16GB, $450) and ran out of storage the first month...

My wife once bought an 8 GB iPhone 4, and regretted it pretty much immediately. That was a horrible experience, and I was stunned that apple would sell such a thing. So far I've learned it pans out this way for iOS devices: - 16 GB: the bare minimum for any sort of user. Don't expect to be taking a lot of pictures or use a lot of apps without a lot of storage twiddling. - 32 GB: fine for regular app use, avoid if you…

I had a 16GB iPhone 6 for years, and when I went to upgrade to an iPhone 8 recently, I was upset that the 16GB wasn't an option anymore. I have no need for 64GB of storage (the new minimum on the 8), because my phone is a phone, not a computer.
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