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Medium tries to prevent people reading deleted articles on the Wayback Machine?

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Re: Medium tries to prevent people reading deleted articles on the Wayback Machine?

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I don't really see why this is a deal. If I decide I want to delete the content I put on Medium I very well want them to delete it everywhere else as well. One could read that as "Medium tries to protect their users content".

Look everyone, it's the non conformist! Downvote away!

On a serious note - people talk all the time about "the right to be forgotten". Medium is securing and enforcing that right on behalf of its users, how is that a wrong thing to be doing?

Re: Medium tries to prevent people reading deleted articles on the Wayback Machine?

#73

Maybe I'm out of touch with HN, but kudos to Medium. I delete the article for a reason, why should someone read it years later (regardless of the website or format.) It's my article

So if you publish a book, and then pull it out of stores, people who have the copies, and all libraries, should burn their copies, right?

Nope because they bought the book. It's their property. My article is MY property.

Re: Medium tries to prevent people reading deleted articles on the Wayback Machine?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What would credibility mean in a world where lies, mistakes, and fits of emotion could be erased completely?

The combination of right to be forgotten and GDPR practically mandate that this be the case and, as others have pointed out, in the pre-internet era there would often be no record, unless it had hit the print media. Most criminal offences are expunged (at least in the UK) from your criminal record after a number of years, so why should the internet be allowed to keep a permanent record after your debt to society has…

Aren't we talking about authors here, not criminals? When articles were in print, authors had a "permanent record".

Re: Medium tries to prevent people reading deleted articles on the Wayback Machine?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

For the love of god, please stop spreading these misinformed views. 1. Nobody in Europe will be blocking anything. 2. The Wayback machine will continue to operate. 3. GDPR is generally pretty well-written legislation, based on extensive experience by privacy regulators across Europe. There are some questions about exactly how the rules will evolve in practice. The thing to bear in mind is that privacy regulators are…

I don't disagree (nor agree), but trusting Europe to not block anything is wrong. There are EU countries that are right now blocking something. Porn in UK, foreign gambling sites in Czech Republic and of course Telegram in Russia. Edit: I of course know that Russia is not in the EU, lol. Parent said "Europe" and I added Telegram as a fun remark after two serious examples (and there are more). Calm down with the downv…

Russia is not part of the European Union, and FWIW porn is not blocked in the UK right now.

Re: Medium tries to prevent people reading deleted articles on the Wayback Machine?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

GDPR doesn't change anything in this respect. Copyright law applies. Why would the owner of the copyright make a complaint to the data protection authorities of the EU who might choose to do nothing when they could directly file a copyright infringement case? I suppose you could add insult to injury, but the data protection agency is likely to rule that the issue is one of copyright infringement.

I post a letter on a pole. You take a picture of it. I sue you for sharing that pic, and pretend you still have free speech.

I'm not sure what you think free speech is, because the definition I'm aware of does not apply in any way to that situation.

Re: Medium tries to prevent people reading deleted articles on the Wayback Machine?

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I wonder how wayback machine will work after GDPR? I can't imagine they can just show content that the authors deleted from primary sources?

Why would GDPR apply to the internet archive? It's a US based nonprofit. As far as I can tell they don't do anything that even remotely hints at them providing services to EU residents (like offering their site in European languages, having the €-symbol somewhere on their donations page or any of the other more subtle things mentioned in GDPR).

Because the data they have might have been produced by EU citizens.

Re: Medium tries to prevent people reading deleted articles on the Wayback Machine?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would GDPR apply to the internet archive? It's a US based nonprofit. As far as I can tell they don't do anything that even remotely hints at them providing services to EU residents (like offering their site in European languages, having the €-symbol somewhere on their donations page or any of the other more subtle things mentioned in GDPR).

Because the data they have might have been produced by EU citizens.

So what? The EU does not get to make laws for other people. That's why we have countries.

Re: Medium tries to prevent people reading deleted articles on the Wayback Machine?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

For the love of god, please stop spreading these misinformed views. 1. Nobody in Europe will be blocking anything. 2. The Wayback machine will continue to operate. 3. GDPR is generally pretty well-written legislation, based on extensive experience by privacy regulators across Europe. There are some questions about exactly how the rules will evolve in practice. The thing to bear in mind is that privacy regulators are…

I don't disagree (nor agree), but trusting Europe to not block anything is wrong. There are EU countries that are right now blocking something. Porn in UK, foreign gambling sites in Czech Republic and of course Telegram in Russia. Edit: I of course know that Russia is not in the EU, lol. Parent said "Europe" and I added Telegram as a fun remark after two serious examples (and there are more). Calm down with the downv…

Russia isn't EU.

Re: Medium tries to prevent people reading deleted articles on the Wayback Machine?

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I wonder how wayback machine will work after GDPR? I can't imagine they can just show content that the authors deleted from primary sources?

I haven't read GDPR in details, but isn't GDPR concerned only with personal/private data? The Wayback Machine only archives public pages as far as I can tell...

If public page can be linked back to you then can be considered personal information and therefore be subject of GDPR.
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