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Medium tries to prevent people reading deleted articles on the Wayback Machine?

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Re: Medium tries to prevent people reading deleted articles on the Wayback Machine?

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I wonder how wayback machine will work after GDPR? I can't imagine they can just show content that the authors deleted from primary sources?

I assume they'll continue as now: take down copies on request. It's not like they didn't have to deal with content people didn't want to archive them before.

Re: Medium tries to prevent people reading deleted articles on the Wayback Machine?

#23

I wonder how wayback machine will work after GDPR? I can't imagine they can just show content that the authors deleted from primary sources?

I haven't read GDPR in details, but isn't GDPR concerned only with personal/private data? The Wayback Machine only archives public pages as far as I can tell...

Given the immense scale of Archive.org, there must be a truly incredible number of sites & pages with personal data & content in the pages. Millions upon millions of pages, due to the repeat archiving.

Comments with usernames. Comments with ip addresses (sometimes old comment systems would allow you to comment without registering but they'd show all or part of your ip address). Comments with personal information in the messages. Comments with email addresses. Blog posts with all sorts of personal details from the author. Personal user account pages, such as the kind you see on sites like Ask.fm or similar, with vast amounts of user information and personal details that can't be deleted. And on it goes. Archive.org is storing all of that and does not allow it to be deleted. Further, it would be nearly impossible to figure out what content is compliant and what is not within the archives. It's a giant GDPR violation system. Their only sane bet is to stay way from the EU jurisdiction wise as much as possible, or shut down.

Re: Medium tries to prevent people reading deleted articles on the Wayback Machine?

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I haven't read GDPR in details, but isn't GDPR concerned only with personal/private data? The Wayback Machine only archives public pages as far as I can tell...

Yes but the article itself is user-provided content to Medium that the author has a right to ask to be deleted (under GDPR), presumably? So perhaps it will be simply a matter of the The Wayback Machine having to have a policy to delete things if requested?

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Re: Medium tries to prevent people reading deleted articles on the Wayback Machine?

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I wonder how wayback machine will work after GDPR? I can't imagine they can just show content that the authors deleted from primary sources?

They can't, and I would like to know what Europe wants to do about it. Block wayback machine in Europe ? Well, I can still access it with a VPN if I want. Also I want to know what they will do about git and GitHub, or even blockchain project (how you delete something from a blockchain ?) The problem is that GDPR is a stupid legislation written by incompetent people that doesn't understand the subject and imposed with…

The law is meant to allow me to delete my account from your cool SV startup, and delete meaning actually delete the data and not deactivate the account but continue using or selling my data.

The cookie law is a problem because lazy web developers did not implement it right, probably you complain about don't spam me law because it adds a bit of extra work for adding the unsubscribe link and implement the requierements.

The laws are done for the good of the society and not for helping a minority to implement some move fast break things, pivot and try again.

Re: Medium tries to prevent people reading deleted articles on the Wayback Machine?

#27

If the page loads completely then yes it redirects to medium.com. But you can read the article by interrupting the redirect and clicking the stop button.

This is true. It took me five goes, but I am over 40 and my mouse finger is not what it was.

Re: Medium tries to prevent people reading deleted articles on the Wayback Machine?

#28

You might like that : root@localhost:~# links -dump ' https://web.archive.org/web/20160826003417/https://medium.co... | nc seashells.io 1337 Results at https://pastebin.com/SMGBscz2

I used w3m -dump https://web.archive.org/web/20160826003417/https://medium.co...

Produces a fairly nice, readable version also.

Re: Medium tries to prevent people reading deleted articles on the Wayback Machine?

#30

Maybe I'm out of touch with HN, but kudos to Medium. I delete the article for a reason, why should someone read it years later (regardless of the website or format.) It's my article

What would credibility mean in a world where lies, mistakes, and fits of emotion could be erased completely?
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