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Medium tries to prevent people reading deleted articles on the Wayback Machine?

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Re: Medium tries to prevent people reading deleted articles on the Wayback Machine?

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What are some ways around it as is mentioned in the article?

Either disable JavaScript before visiting the Wayback Machine, or stop the loading of the page just after it has loaded the text but before it performs the redirection (a bit tricky, you have to stop it at the right time).

Re: Medium tries to prevent people reading deleted articles on the Wayback Machine?

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post #2

What are some ways around it as is mentioned in the article?

Either disable JavaScript before visiting the Wayback Machine, or stop the loading of the page just after it has loaded the text but before it performs the redirection (a bit tricky, you have to stop it at the right time).

You can't use the wayback machine without JS though, can you?

Re: Medium tries to prevent people reading deleted articles on the Wayback Machine?

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I wonder how wayback machine will work after GDPR? I can't imagine they can just show content that the authors deleted from primary sources?

I haven't read GDPR in details, but isn't GDPR concerned only with personal/private data? The Wayback Machine only archives public pages as far as I can tell...

Re: Medium tries to prevent people reading deleted articles on the Wayback Machine?

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I wonder how wayback machine will work after GDPR? I can't imagine they can just show content that the authors deleted from primary sources?

I guess they could vest it in some corporation that has no feet down within the EU. Aside from actually cordoning off a section of the Internet there's not much they could do otherwise.

Though now that I think of it, perhaps blocking [the archive.org crawler] could then become mandatory for GDPR compliance ...

Re: Medium tries to prevent people reading deleted articles on the Wayback Machine?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes probably should have used my own title. It's just difficult for me to accept a headline so lacking in pith. Edit: have updated title

Awesome. I am stepping through the page execution and trying to figure out what is embedded in the page that would cause a redirect if the article is deleted. Did you find it?

No. I took the view that a much more intelligent HN user would do that for me.

Re: Medium tries to prevent people reading deleted articles on the Wayback Machine?

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I wonder how wayback machine will work after GDPR? I can't imagine they can just show content that the authors deleted from primary sources?

I haven't read GDPR in details, but isn't GDPR concerned only with personal/private data? The Wayback Machine only archives public pages as far as I can tell...

Yes but the article itself is user-provided content to Medium that the author has a right to ask to be deleted (under GDPR), presumably? So perhaps it will be simply a matter of the The Wayback Machine having to have a policy to delete things if requested?

Re: Medium tries to prevent people reading deleted articles on the Wayback Machine?

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I wonder how wayback machine will work after GDPR? I can't imagine they can just show content that the authors deleted from primary sources?

I haven't read GDPR in details, but isn't GDPR concerned only with personal/private data? The Wayback Machine only archives public pages as far as I can tell...

Could conflict with “right to be forgotten” however

Re: Medium tries to prevent people reading deleted articles on the Wayback Machine?

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I wonder how wayback machine will work after GDPR? I can't imagine they can just show content that the authors deleted from primary sources?

They can't, and I would like to know what Europe wants to do about it. Block wayback machine in Europe ? Well, I can still access it with a VPN if I want. Also I want to know what they will do about git and GitHub, or even blockchain project (how you delete something from a blockchain ?)

The problem is that GDPR is a stupid legislation written by incompetent people that doesn't understand the subject and imposed with no possibility of choice on member states, like all the regulations from the EU (cookie banner law, for example).

And of course GDPR doesn't impact to much the companies that they aim to fight, like Facebook, Google, etc, they have teams of layers payed millions with the sole purpose to find ways to circumvent these regulations, they will just update the terms of services and done, the ones that will be more affected are small companies, startups, personal no project side projects, people that doesn't have money to spend in a layer for a project that doesn't make him any revenue.

I think that in Europe it's not more possible to do anything, if you have a good and innovative idea and you want to realize it, better take a flight to the US...

Re: Medium tries to prevent people reading deleted articles on the Wayback Machine?

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Either disable JavaScript before visiting the Wayback Machine, or stop the loading of the page just after it has loaded the text but before it performs the redirection (a bit tricky, you have to stop it at the right time).

You can't use the wayback machine without JS though, can you?

Given the link to the archive, it works without javascript for me. I disabled scripts from archive.org with umatrix and the archived page loaded just fine. The only difference from usual is the top bar that archive.org normally displays isn't present.

However you do seem to need javascript enabled to query the wayback machine from web.archive.org: "The Wayback Machine requires your browser to support JavaScript, please email info@archive.org if you have any questions about this. "

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