YouTube Is Removing Some Nootropics Channels • Hacker News Board

Re: YouTube Is Removing Some Nootropics Channels

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Post by mike00632 » Tue, May 01, 2018, 1:53 AM UTC

21 wrote: post #117

kawfey wrote: post #72

New Ask HN thread: where are creators migrating to in lieu of YouTube? Vimeo? Twitch? Facebook? Metacafe or Dailymotion? There are also also already dozens of dapps for streaming like dtube, lbry, viewly, lino, flixxo....(etc, just see https://www.google.com/search?q=decentralized+youtube ), but I don't see any particular venue rising above the rest, as a lot of creators seem to choose "all of the above" as an answer…

There is nowhere to go, no platform wants to host polarizing videos, which will alternatively be attacked by both the far left and the far right (mostly by the left today since tech companies employees mostly sympathize with them thus they get more favorable outcomes)

Looking into DTube, their about page says, "Because of the decentralized nature of IPFS and the STEEM blockchain, D.Tube is not able to censor videos, nor enforce guidelines. Only the users can censor it, through the power of their upvotes and downvotes."

Re: YouTube Is Removing Some Nootropics Channels

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Post by ebbv » Tue, May 01, 2018, 2:02 AM UTC

PaulHoule wrote: post #85

chillingeffect wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

really? https://duckduckgo.com/?q=magnesium+sleep+research&t=ffsb&ia... First result: The effect of magnesium supplementation on primary insomnia in elderly: A double-blind placebo-controlled clinical trial. CONCLUSION: Supplementation of magnesium appears to improve subjective measures of insomnia such as ISI score, sleep efficiency, sleep time and sleep onset latency, early morning awakening, and likewise, insomnia…

I've found that magnesium helps my sleep, particularly the cheaper forms. The more expensive chelated forms seem to do less for me.

The placebo effect is a real effect

Re: YouTube Is Removing Some Nootropics Channels

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Post by ebbv » Tue, May 01, 2018, 2:04 AM UTC

jerf wrote: post #9

"Cronin’s YouTube channel was up to about 22,000 subscribers when he received a notice from YouTube about one of his videos, “Relax and Improve Your Sleep with Natural Calm Magnesium.” The notice said the video had been removed for violating YouTube’s community guidelines, but didn’t specify further." Magnesium isn't even a nootropic. That is, while it may have some ability to boost cognition, it isn't a substance pr…

It’s not censoring of ideas. It’s removing video ads for quackery that is probably illegal under strict reading of US law.

YouTube is on borrowed time (as is all social media) in skirting regulations that normally were enforced on TV and radio. It will catch up with YouTube, Instagram, etc and they are realizing it and trying to prepare.

Re: YouTube Is Removing Some Nootropics Channels

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Post by codepig » Tue, May 01, 2018, 2:25 AM UTC

kristofferR wrote: post #2

This is really scary. People who warned of the slippery slope of censorship were definitely right.

Nasim was a hero and she did nothing wrong.

Re: YouTube Is Removing Some Nootropics Channels

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Post by 2_listerine_pls » Tue, May 01, 2018, 2:36 AM UTC

atomical wrote: post #168

2_listerine_pls wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

TIL calcium supplements are research chemicals.

Did you?

It was a joke...

Re: YouTube Is Removing Some Nootropics Channels

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Post by X-Istence » Tue, May 01, 2018, 3:08 AM UTC

p1necone wrote: post #166

driverdan wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those are called non-functional claims and are allowed in the US. Any time you see something non-specific like "boosts the immune system" or "increases energy" it means the product is likely worthless because those claims don't actually mean anything.

How do those claims not mean anything? They sound pretty clear to me.

Because the FDA has very specific rules as to what constitutes medical advice and what doesn't. The claim of "helps you sleep" is not medical advice and not regulated.

It's the reason so many "nutrition" companies can get away with claiming all kinds of things such as "burn fat faster". That statement means something to you and I, but it's not a medical statement.

Re: YouTube Is Removing Some Nootropics Channels

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, May 01, 2018, 3:51 AM UTC

haZard_OS wrote: post #169

swirepe wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you know that Pepsi is made from dead babies? I didn't, before YouTube [1]. It turns out you can say almost anything you want on video without it being a legal issue. I don't think regulators care about this small-time stuff. [1]: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d72KsFEenz8

groan I actually had to address that claim during a lecture once. Ridiculous. For the record, I think anyone peddling pseudoscience regarding medical conditions should be shutdown hard and fast. People who suffer from chronic pain or incurable illness can become desperate and turn to charlatans whose snake-oil can produce terrible effects. It isn't harmless to prey on such insecurities. http://whatstheharm.net/

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Re: YouTube Is Removing Some Nootropics Channels

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Post by himom » Tue, May 01, 2018, 4:57 AM UTC

jerf wrote: post #9

"Cronin’s YouTube channel was up to about 22,000 subscribers when he received a notice from YouTube about one of his videos, “Relax and Improve Your Sleep with Natural Calm Magnesium.” The notice said the video had been removed for violating YouTube’s community guidelines, but didn’t specify further." Magnesium isn't even a nootropic. That is, while it may have some ability to boost cognition, it isn't a substance pr…

Heck, my mother and I both independently were recommended to supplement with extra magnesium. Most people are also deficient. It’s also useful for cognitive and GI function.

Re: YouTube Is Removing Some Nootropics Channels

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Post by stevecronin » Tue, May 01, 2018, 7:32 AM UTC

dbasedweeb wrote: post #159

stevecronin wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always made it very clear not to make medical claims.

Relax and Improve Your Sleep with Natural Calm Magnesium If that’s your version of very clear, maybe you shouldn’t be giving people advice.

So does adding a question mark at the end of the title fit your position? It's a title and you did not watch the video, it's the same when you buy that product at whole foods and the label says something, then you turn it over to see it's not medical advice.

Re: YouTube Is Removing Some Nootropics Channels

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Post by stevecronin » Tue, May 01, 2018, 7:33 AM UTC

chillingeffect wrote: post #80

jerf wrote: post #9

"Cronin’s YouTube channel was up to about 22,000 subscribers when he received a notice from YouTube about one of his videos, “Relax and Improve Your Sleep with Natural Calm Magnesium.” The notice said the video had been removed for violating YouTube’s community guidelines, but didn’t specify further." Magnesium isn't even a nootropic. That is, while it may have some ability to boost cognition, it isn't a substance pr…

really? https://duckduckgo.com/?q=magnesium+sleep+research&t=ffsb&ia... First result: The effect of magnesium supplementation on primary insomnia in elderly: A double-blind placebo-controlled clinical trial. CONCLUSION: Supplementation of magnesium appears to improve subjective measures of insomnia such as ISI score, sleep efficiency, sleep time and sleep onset latency, early morning awakening, and likewise, insomnia…

Thank you