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YouTube Is Removing Some Nootropics Channels

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Re: YouTube Is Removing Some Nootropics Channels

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> pedantic It's not pedantic , it is patently false . Wikipedia: "Governments and private organizations may engage in censorship" Merriam Webster: Censor: "a person who supervises conduct and morals " Dictionary.com: Censor: "any person who supervises the manners or morality of others" ACLU: "Censorship can be carried out by the government as well as private pressure groups"

Fair enough. The confusion seems to be so common I wonder where it comes from originally. Evidently it's not coming from dictionaries... maybe schools are creating this misconception by primarily discussing government censorship.

I'm guessing it's because of the First Amendment.

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I don't think nationalization is the answer, but busting up that monopoly probably is. Google's entire business model seems to be to operate everything as a loss-leader for AdSense. It turns out that that's extremely anti-competitive and I'm growing to think that it probably should be illegal. The only way that anyone can compete with the free services that Google provides is to run it off the profits from a massive…

But as otakucode points out, the resulting Baby Youtubes from a broken up Youtube probably wouldn't be economically viable. Independent 'Baby Youtubes' would probably be surmounted by another nu-Youtube kicked off by the likes of Facebook or Amazon; companies that could afford to subsidize the platform to out-compete independent video platforms. It would become the Google/Youtube situation all over again. And sure, y…

I'm not so certain I agree. For one, I don't think corporations this large should be able to entirely subsidize entire mature businesses (and control them) period. That's the force they exert in the market that's anti-competitive. If an alternative isn't economically viable, than the business just isn't there.

Given the little I know about Facebook's server infrastructure, they don't really have the capability to deliver a "Baby Youtube" anytime soon. They don't have the physical space available for the hardware they'd need and if they did it would rapidly be absorbed by their larger teams who need it already. Plus they just don't do high quality video well. That combined with the visibility limitations of the feed don't really make it a great platform for self-branding, unless you're willing to shell out major cash for promotion.

Amazon makes more sense as Twitch is already a good analogue for Youtube. It also pairs well with their budding media empire. That said, Twitch actually brings in money -- it doesn't depend entirely on subsidy to function.

I think what I'm getting at, ultimately, is that hosting your own video content probably shouldn't be free. I'm sort of tonedeaf to complaints over the streaming Adpocalypse because these streamers/person-brands exist purely through advertising subsidy in the first place. If the quality of your content is good, it's worth paying for distribution (and/or self-hosting) because you will see a return.

So it turns out that Vimeo is probably the right choice. Reviewing their content guidelines, it seems as though most of the commercial content that has been kicked off other platforms fine as long as it isn't spammy or sexually explicit.

Re: YouTube Is Removing Some Nootropics Channels

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> pedantic It's not pedantic , it is patently false . Wikipedia: "Governments and private organizations may engage in censorship" Merriam Webster: Censor: "a person who supervises conduct and morals " Dictionary.com: Censor: "any person who supervises the manners or morality of others" ACLU: "Censorship can be carried out by the government as well as private pressure groups"

Fair enough. The confusion seems to be so common I wonder where it comes from originally. Evidently it's not coming from dictionaries... maybe schools are creating this misconception by primarily discussing government censorship.

I doubt Randall Munroe of XKCD created it, but he certainly popularized it on internet with his free speech comic.

The confusion seems common to America, where the constitution is seen as the source of the rights, rather than as a document referencing pre existing ideals.

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“Nothing illegal, no medical advice offered, I've always been incredibly careful about this.” The article then goes on to name several videos with titles like "increase energy," "improve concentration and memory," "improve sleep," etc. Are there any lawyers around who know of a legal definition for "medical advice" or "medical claims?" Because these videos sound a lot like medical advice despite his insistence that t…

Those are called non-functional claims and are allowed in the US. Any time you see something non-specific like "boosts the immune system" or "increases energy" it means the product is likely worthless because those claims don't actually mean anything.

How do those claims not mean anything? They sound pretty clear to me.

Re: YouTube Is Removing Some Nootropics Channels

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> pedantic It's not pedantic , it is patently false . Wikipedia: "Governments and private organizations may engage in censorship" Merriam Webster: Censor: "a person who supervises conduct and morals " Dictionary.com: Censor: "any person who supervises the manners or morality of others" ACLU: "Censorship can be carried out by the government as well as private pressure groups"

Fair enough. The confusion seems to be so common I wonder where it comes from originally. Evidently it's not coming from dictionaries... maybe schools are creating this misconception by primarily discussing government censorship.

Its not confusion, its a specific talking point used to advocate pro-censorship ideology. Arguing against the 1st amendment would be arguing against american values - this conveniently side steps that association.

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Exercise is much different from research chemicals. One difference is you don't need to buy exercise from shady sites that will eventually be shut down by the FDA.

TIL calcium supplements are research chemicals.

Did you?

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Problem is medical claims are highly regulated in the West. So there is a likely legal liability for youtube in the US and in the UK. In fact, they might have already had pressure from regulators.

Did you know that Pepsi is made from dead babies? I didn't, before YouTube [1]. It turns out you can say almost anything you want on video without it being a legal issue. I don't think regulators care about this small-time stuff. [1]: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d72KsFEenz8

groan I actually had to address that claim during a lecture once. Ridiculous.

For the record, I think anyone peddling pseudoscience regarding medical conditions should be shutdown hard and fast. People who suffer from chronic pain or incurable illness can become desperate and turn to charlatans whose snake-oil can produce terrible effects. It isn't harmless to prey on such insecurities.

http://whatstheharm.net/

Re: YouTube Is Removing Some Nootropics Channels

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YouTube has a monopoly on free online video and this is what monopoly looks like. When Google bought out YouTube, as those that were online back then can attest, there were dozens of not hundreds of competing sites. None of those could hold a candle to the resources Google’s cash could buy, and they quickly dropped out of the running. The only site still around is probably vimeo, and only because they were smart enou…

The few video sites that have managed to compete with YouTube all have interesting angles. There is DailyMotion, which is popular in France and seems to play fast and loose with IP laws. Tudou for when you're behind the great Chinese Firewall. Facebook videos, which compete in view counts with YouTube by force of their own monopoly on social media. And Twitch which carved out a niche in video game streaming. Maybe we should consider Twitter videos too. RIP Vine.
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