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Re: France seizes france.com from man who's had it since 1994

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Germany doesn't seem to care much about http://germany.com :)

I guess most .com domains are not owned by the governments, as .com is quite old, and geeks would have got them long before govts thought of having a website.

To add to the list, brazil.com(website inaccessible), russia.com, india.com(news website), china.com, southafrica.com

Re: France seizes france.com from man who's had it since 1994

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post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was about to ask why toll-free even matters, since cell phones make dialing "long distance" free. But I guess the 55+ target market is probably the least-saturated market when it comes to cell phones too, yeah?

In this day and age, most folks have free long distance whether they have a cell phone or not. One misconception is that calling a 800 prefix is completely cost free, on a cellular phone, you still get charged for roaming / air time in most cases.

an 800 number is also partially about having a large corporate identity, for example if go to the website for $HUGE_AIRLINE and its main customer service/reservations phone number is 1-416-something-something vs 1-800-something-something, it looks less serious.

Re: France seizes france.com from man who's had it since 1994

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Is France a company? Wouldn't they want france.gov? As an owner of worcester.com, this is the argument we had with the city of Worcester, MA in the 90s. They did in fact want worcester.gov.

No, they would not want france.gov, since they are not a government entity of the United States.

Re: France seizes france.com from man who's had it since 1994

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

All countries have their respective .edu, .gov, .org etc and if you consider them I think my point still stands.

What do you mean? .edu and .gov are US-only.

E.g. France has .gouv.fr which is equivalent of .gov. All countries have their respective replacements, if needed.

Re: France seizes france.com from man who's had it since 1994

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post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

... I own my cellphone. What are you referring to?

locked bootloaders/etc... They claim it's for security but they don't give you a choice.

That has zero to do with ownership - unless you think the code on every embedded chip should be 100% open and accessible in user-space.

Which would be a security nightmare.

Re: France seizes france.com from man who's had it since 1994

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post #224

Is France a company? Wouldn't they want france.gov? As an owner of worcester.com, this is the argument we had with the city of Worcester, MA in the 90s. They did in fact want worcester.gov.

No, they would not want france.gov, since they are not a government entity of the United States.

Ah, I did not realize how much of a mess this had become.

Re: France seizes france.com from man who's had it since 1994

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Based on your other replies in this thread, you obviously know that there are more toll free NPAs than just “800”. As many of them have been around a long time, I would argue they are just as recognizable.

Yes, i'm well aware of that... I actually control the DIDs for some 800 numbers that are very valuable, we've been offered a great deal of money to transfer them. 800 remains the most valuable by far, particularly for direct sales to consumers in the US market, because it's existed for the longest amount of time. NPAs 888 and 877 are not nearly as valuable. If you're setting up the inbound call center call routing fo…

> a vastly higher percentage of the age 55+ target market recognizes 800 immediately but is less certain about 888, 877 and others.

That used to be the case, but not so much anymore. 888 and 877 have been used enough by major companies over the past twenty years that most consumers know they are TF. The companies who claim 800 is the only way to go and not 888/877/866 have a vested financial interest in convincing you of that.

(Note: 855/844/833 have much less awareness, so my omission of them above was intentional)

Re: France seizes france.com from man who's had it since 1994

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In this day and age, most folks have free long distance whether they have a cell phone or not. One misconception is that calling a 800 prefix is completely cost free, on a cellular phone, you still get charged for roaming / air time in most cases.

an 800 number is also partially about having a large corporate identity, for example if go to the website for $HUGE_AIRLINE and its main customer service/reservations phone number is 1-416-something-something vs 1-800-something-something, it looks less serious.

I used to work for MCI back in the day and our small business teams used that very tactic to sell TF numbers.

Re: France seizes france.com from man who's had it since 1994

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Based on your other replies in this thread, you obviously know that there are more toll free NPAs than just “800”. As many of them have been around a long time, I would argue they are just as recognizable.

Yes, i'm well aware of that... I actually control the DIDs for some 800 numbers that are very valuable, we've been offered a great deal of money to transfer them. 800 remains the most valuable by far, particularly for direct sales to consumers in the US market, because it's existed for the longest amount of time. NPAs 888 and 877 are not nearly as valuable. If you're setting up the inbound call center call routing fo…

> I actually control the DIDs for some 800 numbers that are very valuable, we've been offered a great deal of money to transfer them. 800 remains the most valuable by far

Also, not disputing they are really valuable, I know that’s true from personal experience as well.

I’m more arguing that 800 numbers are valuable for a similar reason to diamonds being valuable. It’s not because diamonds are super rare or truly needed, it’s because the marketing has been so effective on them. The unbiased studies I’ve read show 888/877 are just as readily known and give a similar positive brand image as 800 numbers are. The industry doesn’t want to admit it though because they’ll lose out on the hype money.

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