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Re: Stripe Atlas for LLCs

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What would be the combined fed+state corporate income tax rate for a Delaware LLC? Quick google says this is 21% (federal) + 8.7% (Delaware). Is my understanding of this correct, that a Delaware LLC pays 29.7% taxes on its profits?

Assuming the LLC is taxed as a corporation, that 8.7% only applies to the portion of income which actually came from customers in Delaware.

Re: Stripe Atlas for LLCs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep. An LLC* is not taxed as a corporation unless it chooses to be, by default it is taxed as a sole proprietorship (and so the owner would pay income tax). This is known as a disregarded entity” at the federal level. Also watch out for franchise taxes - if you live in California it’s $800/yr minimum. * Edit: a single-member LLC

Pretty sure you can only be a "disregarded entity" (schedule-c) with a single member LLC. Beyond that is get's more complicated.

Yes, that’s right. Good point!

Re: Stripe Atlas for LLCs

#73

> Is designed to make conversion to a C Corporation as simple as possible. (We can connect Stripe Atlas users to a lawyer to manage the conversion process with discounted, flat-rate packages). This is the most important part. LLCs tend to be cheaper and more flexible before you raise money, but a C-Corp is basically necessary to raise money. Converting an LLC to C-Corp conversion is often quoted at about $10K from a…

$10k isn't the high end, either.

Re: Stripe Atlas for LLCs

#75
post #34

This is all very cool. But: don't operate a multi-partner company in any form, LLC or C-Corp, without formal vesting. Companies without vesting are rigged to explode if any member leaves.

>if any member leaves. This brings up a very interesting issue under the Delaware Limited Liability Company Act, that is without an Operating Agreement in place that allows a Member to resign their ownership, the Delaware Law is controlling and does not allow a member of a multi-member LLC to withdraw (resign their interest) prior to dissolution and winding up of the company. One may be able to get the other member(s…

The Stripe Atlas LLC does come with an operating agreement which contemplates members leaving.

Re: Stripe Atlas for LLCs

#76
post #34

This is all very cool. But: don't operate a multi-partner company in any form, LLC or C-Corp, without formal vesting. Companies without vesting are rigged to explode if any member leaves.

>if any member leaves. This brings up a very interesting issue under the Delaware Limited Liability Company Act, that is without an Operating Agreement in place that allows a Member to resign their ownership, the Delaware Law is controlling and does not allow a member of a multi-member LLC to withdraw (resign their interest) prior to dissolution and winding up of the company. One may be able to get the other member(s…

> it doesn’t appear the Stripe Atlas LLC comes with an operating agreement

I'm 100% sure it does. The description talks about things like being split into 10,000,000 units, for example, which is definitely not in the Act.

Re: Stripe Atlas for LLCs

#77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep. An LLC* is not taxed as a corporation unless it chooses to be, by default it is taxed as a sole proprietorship (and so the owner would pay income tax). This is known as a disregarded entity” at the federal level. Also watch out for franchise taxes - if you live in California it’s $800/yr minimum. * Edit: a single-member LLC

How is an LLC taxed with foreign members? Is it tax exempt in the US and does the income accrue to the partners (i.e. foreign companies and/or people)?

I don’t know, for a single member I think the LLC might be required to pay the income tax itself in that case. You can be sure that the federal government will want its taxes.

For multiple members it will be taxed as a corporation.

Re: Stripe Atlas for LLCs

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post #60

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Why wyoming vs nevada

It’s cheaper

If the annual renewal cost of your business entity is a dominating factor of where you're going to site the entity, you should probably be thinking strongly about whether you should be forming an entity at all.

Re: Stripe Atlas for LLCs

#79
I'll soon need to move an LLC from Texas to Colorado. Should I instead consider shutting down my Texas LLC and forming a new one with Stripe Atlas? Would there be any benefit to this?

Re: Stripe Atlas for LLCs

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> Is organized in Delaware, the jurisdiction of choice for many new LLCs. Be aware that if you are "doing business" in California which means you live there you also have to file as a California foreign entity and pay the absurd anti-small business flat tax of $800 a year. This also does not include your state income tax liabilities in California. Just because the LLC is formed in Delaware does not mean you don't hav…

This is very important info. I've seen some founders get tripped up over this. Hopefully Stripe Atlas LLC provides support for foreign entity registration and taxes too (I would assume they do).
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