Domains on the blockchain?
You'd still have to agree on what rules to base your blockchain on. This is a political issue, not a technological one.
France seizes france.com from man who's had it since 1994
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Re: France seizes france.com from man who's had it since 1994
#212Earlier quoted context omitted.
Based on your other replies in this thread, you obviously know that there are more toll free NPAs than just “800”. As many of them have been around a long time, I would argue they are just as recognizable.
Yes, i'm well aware of that... I actually control the DIDs for some 800 numbers that are very valuable, we've been offered a great deal of money to transfer them. 800 remains the most valuable by far, particularly for direct sales to consumers in the US market, because it's existed for the longest amount of time. NPAs 888 and 877 are not nearly as valuable. If you're setting up the inbound call center call routing fo…
I was about to ask why toll-free even matters, since cell phones make dialing "long distance" free. But I guess the 55+ target market is probably the least-saturated market when it comes to cell phones too, yeah?
Re: France seizes france.com from man who's had it since 1994
#213The courts, in the USA, have found that domain names are not property, instead they are like telephone numbers: ---------------- The court found that under the California tariffs, rules, and regulations applicable to public utilities, and under the terms of the contracts, the debtors had no “proprietary right in the number.” https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=0a84b472-c89f... Also: ...under Virginia law,…
The weird thing about this to me is that phone numbers always take you to the same phone, but domain names just involve me trusting some table I use to look things up. The internet is deeply democratic, maybe anarchic -- whatever rules I want my machine to follow it follows. If people generally disagreed with this decision, a viral hosts file would roll it back. (I don't think this so alarming a case that it will spa…
To several commenters:
You're right, phone numbers aren't fixed. I went too far slipping that one in. My apologies.
However...
I generally don't remap remote phone numbers on my own equipment at home. I'm sure I could run an Asterisk PBX, but that's at least one level of complication harder than using a hosts file. The phone system is designed for companies to talk to one another, the internet is basically designed to allow distributed authority and control.
Hackers have spent decades hacking into the telephone system to make it work more like the internet, before there was even an internet to resemble.
And the internet is agnostic, it will absolutely let you give up control to a remote authority over some aspects of its operation, like for DNS or certificates or DDoS mitigation, and sometimes that's a good trade. But it's never obligatory.
So the two converge and overlap, but I stand by my point that there's a fundamental difference stemming from original design and philosophy.
Re: France seizes france.com from man who's had it since 1994
#214Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, i'm well aware of that... I actually control the DIDs for some 800 numbers that are very valuable, we've been offered a great deal of money to transfer them. 800 remains the most valuable by far, particularly for direct sales to consumers in the US market, because it's existed for the longest amount of time. NPAs 888 and 877 are not nearly as valuable. If you're setting up the inbound call center call routing fo…
I was about to ask why toll-free even matters, since cell phones make dialing "long distance" free. But I guess the 55+ target market is probably the least-saturated market when it comes to cell phones too, yeah?
In this day and age, most folks have free long distance whether they have a cell phone or not. One misconception is that calling a 800 prefix is completely cost free, on a cellular phone, you still get charged for roaming / air time in most cases.
Re: France seizes france.com from man who's had it since 1994
#215Earlier quoted context omitted.
Telephone numbers are well delineated between counties with “country codes”. I don’t think anybody is confused about which country owns what number.
But so are domains, just with a suffix instead of a prefix. You oughta think a .com domain is more suitable for a commercial entity then for a government/state department.
This is the interesting thing. If it had been france.us - would the policy be different? .com is a special case, as if a number existed outside of an allocated country code.
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#216Earlier quoted context omitted.
So if France Gall[0] created the website she would have been stripped too? France is a relatively common name[1] in France. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France_Gall [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France_(name)
There is a famous precedent with milka.fr https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milka_contre_Kraft_Foods tldr : a woman named Milka bought the domain for her own business and used it for a while before Kraft foods noticed it. Lawsuit followed, big business won.
And nissan.com
In this case, big business hasn't won yet: http://www.digest.com/Big_Story.php
Re: France seizes france.com from man who's had it since 1994
#217canada.com is not owned by the government, its owned by postmedia the parent of rogers
Re: France seizes france.com from man who's had it since 1994
#218Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or UnitedStates.com - a spam site Or America.com (a godaddy page). Could this guy sue Web.com? Maybe he can win the fight to Web.com on behalf of the WWW.
Back in the early 2000's whitehouse.com used to be a patriotic-themed adult site. So I'm told...
I checked out whitehouse.gov recently and they now feature a guy who previously co-starred with Stormy Daniels.
Re: France seizes france.com from man who's had it since 1994
#219Why would the Paris Court of Appeals have any jurisdiction in this case? I'm surprised web.com didn't have their lawyers review the request and then throw it in the trash.
If web.com wants to do any business in France, or possibly if its executives ever want to travel there, then the French government has leverage over them.
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#220Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, i'm well aware of that... I actually control the DIDs for some 800 numbers that are very valuable, we've been offered a great deal of money to transfer them. 800 remains the most valuable by far, particularly for direct sales to consumers in the US market, because it's existed for the longest amount of time. NPAs 888 and 877 are not nearly as valuable. If you're setting up the inbound call center call routing fo…
I was about to ask why toll-free even matters, since cell phones make dialing "long distance" free. But I guess the 55+ target market is probably the least-saturated market when it comes to cell phones too, yeah?
Toll free matters in the way that having a .com matters. If you're advertising steakknives.biz at 616-555-1234, you have next to no credibility.