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France seizes france.com from man who's had it since 1994

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Re: France seizes france.com from man who's had it since 1994

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Post by fasj82 »

lkrubner wrote: post #7

The courts, in the USA, have found that domain names are not property, instead they are like telephone numbers: ---------------- The court found that under the California tariffs, rules, and regulations applicable to public utilities, and under the terms of the contracts, the debtors had no “proprietary right in the number.” https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=0a84b472-c89f... Also: ...under Virginia law,…

Maybe I'm weird but I think France.com belonging to France is the just thing. The last thing we need is giving more rights to squatters.

Re: France seizes france.com from man who's had it since 1994

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Post by sneak »

fasj82 wrote: post #51
lkrubner wrote: post #7

The courts, in the USA, have found that domain names are not property, instead they are like telephone numbers: ---------------- The court found that under the California tariffs, rules, and regulations applicable to public utilities, and under the terms of the contracts, the debtors had no “proprietary right in the number.” https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=0a84b472-c89f... Also: ...under Virginia law,…

Maybe I'm weird but I think France.com belonging to France is the just thing. The last thing we need is giving more rights to squatters.

It belongs to a person born there, who registered it and is using it. How is he in any way a squatter?!

Re: France seizes france.com from man who's had it since 1994

#54

Post by arkades »

sneak wrote: post #52
fasj82 wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe I'm weird but I think France.com belonging to France is the just thing. The last thing we need is giving more rights to squatters.

It belongs to a person born there, who registered it and is using it. How is he in any way a squatter?!

Registered and used it with, apparently, the blessing of the French government for a couple of decades - they were aware of its existence, and worked with him in providing some content, as I understood the article.

It's ... nothing at all like cybersquatting. At all.

Re: France seizes france.com from man who's had it since 1994

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Post by walshemj »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #29
lkrubner wrote: post #7

The courts, in the USA, have found that domain names are not property, instead they are like telephone numbers: ---------------- The court found that under the California tariffs, rules, and regulations applicable to public utilities, and under the terms of the contracts, the debtors had no “proprietary right in the number.” https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=0a84b472-c89f... Also: ...under Virginia law,…

> Governments have the right to assign to themselves any telephone number they wish, and reserve ranges of phone numbers for themselves, They don't do that after the fact.

And they don't assign themselves numbers outside their country.

Re: France seizes france.com from man who's had it since 1994

#57

Post by oh_sigh »

lkrubner wrote: post #16
onetimemanytime wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not all courts, IIRC. The Virginia case was based on VA state law. The 9th and 2nd rules that phone numbers are not assets...so maybe domains are like phone numbers?

That is exactly what I said. Did you read what I wrote? Phone numbers are not assets...so maybe domains are like phone numbers?

I think OP was saying that you were taking a ruling from the 4th and 9th circuits and expanding it's domain as if it were nationally the case in the US.

Re: France seizes france.com from man who's had it since 1994

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Post by fasj82 »

arkades wrote: post #54
sneak wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It belongs to a person born there, who registered it and is using it. How is he in any way a squatter?!

Registered and used it with, apparently, the blessing of the French government for a couple of decades - they were aware of its existence, and worked with him in providing some content, as I understood the article. It's ... nothing at all like cybersquatting. At all.

I'm not saying this is a squatter.

Re: France seizes france.com from man who's had it since 1994

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Post by oldcynic »

fasj82 wrote: post #51
lkrubner wrote: post #7

The courts, in the USA, have found that domain names are not property, instead they are like telephone numbers: ---------------- The court found that under the California tariffs, rules, and regulations applicable to public utilities, and under the terms of the contracts, the debtors had no “proprietary right in the number.” https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=0a84b472-c89f... Also: ...under Virginia law,…

Maybe I'm weird but I think France.com belonging to France is the just thing. The last thing we need is giving more rights to squatters.

Taking it from the guy who's spent 20 years building a business on it, with no compensation, is the just thing?

Re: France seizes france.com from man who's had it since 1994

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Post by 49bc »

lkrubner wrote: post #7

The courts, in the USA, have found that domain names are not property, instead they are like telephone numbers: ---------------- The court found that under the California tariffs, rules, and regulations applicable to public utilities, and under the terms of the contracts, the debtors had no “proprietary right in the number.” https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=0a84b472-c89f... Also: ...under Virginia law,…

Seems like the right idea for IP addresses, but not domain names. I don’t know why they can say all three belong to the same jurisdiction. I hope there’s an appeal.
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