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A coworker stole my spicy food, got sick, and is blaming me (2016)

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Re: A coworker stole my spicy food, got sick, and is blaming me (2016)

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Science fiction is presented as fiction, people discuss it as fiction. The comments here are very much a different story, so please take the time to read them.

There is value in discussing fiction as though it was true. A thought experiment never hurt anybody.

Sure, but that clearly isn’t what’s actually happening here. Let’s not compare a circle jerk with a thought experiment.

Re: A coworker stole my spicy food, got sick, and is blaming me (2016)

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post #209

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...The dozens of comments taking it at face value? Just because you're discussing it seriously doesn't mean you take it at face value. Just look at discussions about fictional works, particularly SF. If it isn’t true how is it relevant to anything? It's just food for thought and discussion. Is it relevant whether Schrödinger actually put a cat in a box?

This is the lamest argument I've seen in a while. It's clearly being presented as a true story by the original source. If it's not true it's not food for any kind of thought it's just a really badly written and stupid short story. Stop trying to justify lying.

I sincerely don't get that position. We've been presented with a story; whether that story actually happened in unknowable. So how can it possibly affect the story's quality as food for thought?

I'm feeling like Brian: https://youtu.be/9czBBKof7Yo?t=1m30s

Re: A coworker stole my spicy food, got sick, and is blaming me (2016)

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post #209

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This is the lamest argument I've seen in a while. It's clearly being presented as a true story by the original source. If it's not true it's not food for any kind of thought it's just a really badly written and stupid short story. Stop trying to justify lying.

I sincerely don't get that position. We've been presented with a story; whether that story actually happened in unknowable. So how can it possibly affect the story's quality as food for thought? I'm feeling like Brian: https://youtu.be/9czBBKof7Yo?t=1m30s

How can it possibly have any value whatsoever if it's not real?

If it's real you can wonder ok what motivated actual people to behave in this way, what actually happened?

If it is made up (which it almost certainly is because it's so far fetched and ridiculous) then it has zero value. There's nothing worth thinking about here or discussing if it didn't actually happen. Like I said it's just a really poorly written short story.

You don't discuss literature the same way you discuss journalism. I can't believe you don't already know that?

Re: A coworker stole my spicy food, got sick, and is blaming me (2016)

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post #206

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Would you also fire someone who takes an office pen home? What about printing personal documents on the office printer? Sure, they are all technically "stealing" stuff, but lighten up.

Completely different scenarios. Stealing an office pen is slightly immoral but basically affects no one. Stealing a lunch ruins someone's day, and is a direct insult to their time and existence. An absolute false equivalence and you know it.

Sure, taking someone's lunch is worse than stealing a pen, but firing them is overkill. The punishment does not fit the crime.

Re: A coworker stole my spicy food, got sick, and is blaming me (2016)

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post #214

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Completely different scenarios. Stealing an office pen is slightly immoral but basically affects no one. Stealing a lunch ruins someone's day, and is a direct insult to their time and existence. An absolute false equivalence and you know it.

Sure, taking someone's lunch is worse than stealing a pen, but firing them is overkill. The punishment does not fit the crime.

If you believe that theft is an isolated incident then sure. I'd argue that someone who steals a coworker's lunch is not a good person in other areas of their life.

Re: A coworker stole my spicy food, got sick, and is blaming me (2016)

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This feels like a made-up story designed to attract clicks. Even more with the happy ending update. There are more unlikely stories on the same site, like this one: http://www.askamanager.org/2017/05/im-in-a-dominantsubmissiv...

The solution still stands. In a non-threatening way you make it known you know an activity or accusation is unfounded and, if pressed, you may take further action. And you do this in writing, clearly stating it is for documentation purposes. Nothing will make HR/legal stop in their tracks faster (unless you really are in the wrong)

Re: A coworker stole my spicy food, got sick, and is blaming me (2016)

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Mistakes happen. There are all sorts of ways you could accidentally eat someone else's lunch, and having a 'zero tolerance' policy is a good way to end up firing an innocent person.

Accidentally take, sure. Accidentally consume? Maybe one bite. Unless there were some odd circumstances, like mental deficiency, or nearly identical meals, beyond one bite is very difficult to believe.

I accidentally consumed a coworkers yogurt cup once (and told her/replaced it as soon as I realized). I had started daring a different coworker and she had said something like "you can eat my yogurt in my yellow bag at the front-left of the fridge". Unfortunately, we had 2 fridges in the break room at the time...

Re: A coworker stole my spicy food, got sick, and is blaming me (2016)

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Mistakes happen. There are all sorts of ways you could accidentally eat someone else's lunch, and having a 'zero tolerance' policy is a good way to end up firing an innocent person.

Do tell, which are a couple of those ways that someone might accidentally pick someone else's lunch box, open it, and start eating some unknown food without realizing?

Here's mine: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16959947

Oh! and another: We have a certain corner table in our lunch room where we traditionally put free food. Someone set their lunch item there while doing something else. I grabbed it and ate it. When we realized I apologized profusely(while other co-workers said "oops, she shouldn't have put it there"), then bought her a replacement.

Re: A coworker stole my spicy food, got sick, and is blaming me (2016)

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Mistakes happen. There are all sorts of ways you could accidentally eat someone else's lunch, and having a 'zero tolerance' policy is a good way to end up firing an innocent person.

| There are all sorts of ways you could accidentally eat someone else's lunch Want to give us some examples?

Here's mine: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16959980

Re: A coworker stole my spicy food, got sick, and is blaming me (2016)

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Exactly how I read it. Except it wasn't a booby trap. It's like a thief complaining because they crashed the car they stole from you.

> It's like a thief complaining because they crashed the car they stole from you. To take this further: It's a bit like they crashed the stolen car because you cut the brake lines in anticipation of someone stealing it (a bit extreme obviously, but just bear with me). Which is interesting: I actually wonder whether you would be found at least civilly liable in that instance.

Not really. Spiciness isn't at all at the same level as cut brake lines, and it wasn't done in anticipation of anything

It's more like you have a manual transmission, and your thief crashed because they only know an automatic.

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