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Households Need to Earn $300,000 a Year to Live a Middle Class Lifestyle

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Re: Households Need to Earn $300,000 a Year to Live a Middle Class Lifestyle

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Which ones?

The article listed several BART workers who earn $200+k. Do you really think their financial situation will be better if they move to St Louis?

> don't live in one of the most expensive cities in the world >> Not a choice you actually have for many careers.

My question was which careers force you to live in one of the most expensive cities in the world. I don't think your example of public transportation employees is a very good one.

Re: Households Need to Earn $300,000 a Year to Live a Middle Class Lifestyle

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Which ones?

Politics - DC Media - New York Tech for a BigCo - Seattle/Bay Area. You can of course move to Europe (Visa permitting) but you will find your salary gets much lower too.

> Tech for a BigCo - Seattle/Bay Area.

This is not accurate.

Re: Households Need to Earn $300,000 a Year to Live a Middle Class Lifestyle

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How can anyone pay any attention to yet another west coaster who lives in a bubble? https://dqydj.com/income-percentile-calculator/ If you make $300,000 a year in household income, you are making more than 98.9% of households in the US. Our household income is a little more than half that, we live in a major metropolitan city, have a 5 bedroom 3-1/2 bath house in one of the affluent counties in the country that was b…

> If you make $300,000 a year in household income, you are making more than 98.9% of households in the US.

A national percentile calculation does not meaningfully apply when the source county is on either extreme end of the income spectrum.

In 94129, for example, 40% of households make over $200k and the average household income is $250k: https://www.incomebyzipcode.com/california/94129

Re: Households Need to Earn $300,000 a Year to Live a Middle Class Lifestyle

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200k == about 11600 take home a month after taxes and insurance Monthly Rent : 3300 ( east bay 45 minute train ride into SF) Utlities : 350 BART riding : 260 BART parking : 60-100 or Drive to SF and Car parking $500 ( instead of the 360 BART ) Groceries : 1400 ( 2 teenage boys eat ) Car payments + insurance : 800 ( 2 cars ) renters insurance : 120 Clothing : 300 ( teenagers outgrow stuff fast ) Cell phones : 300 6930…

Having 40% of your take-home pay after covering essentials is not living paycheck-to-paycheck. But it's also true that if you're starting with nothing, saving for a down payment in such a housing market is unattainable.

that is 40% for 4 people or 10% each... and you will notice I left out many costs like fuel / car maintenance.

Life is different when you arent single

Re: Households Need to Earn $300,000 a Year to Live a Middle Class Lifestyle

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How can anyone pay any attention to yet another west coaster who lives in a bubble? https://dqydj.com/income-percentile-calculator/ If you make $300,000 a year in household income, you are making more than 98.9% of households in the US. Our household income is a little more than half that, we live in a major metropolitan city, have a 5 bedroom 3-1/2 bath house in one of the affluent counties in the country that was b…

> If you make $300,000 a year in household income, you are making more than 98.9% of households in the US. A national percentile calculation does not meaningfully apply when the source county is on either extreme end of the income spectrum. In 94129, for example, 40% of households make over $200k and the average household income is $250k: https://www.incomebyzipcode.com/california/94129

And there are plenty of places in the US where the salary/cost of living makes more sense.

Re: Households Need to Earn $300,000 a Year to Live a Middle Class Lifestyle

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> If you make $300,000 a year in household income, you are making more than 98.9% of households in the US. A national percentile calculation does not meaningfully apply when the source county is on either extreme end of the income spectrum. In 94129, for example, 40% of households make over $200k and the average household income is $250k: https://www.incomebyzipcode.com/california/94129

And there are plenty of places in the US where the salary/cost of living makes more sense.

Not denying that, but _some_ people must live in cost-of-living bubbles (otherwise how can such bubbles exist?) and comparisons for such bubbles must be made _within_ the bubbles.

Re: Households Need to Earn $300,000 a Year to Live a Middle Class Lifestyle

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Having 40% of your take-home pay after covering essentials is not living paycheck-to-paycheck. But it's also true that if you're starting with nothing, saving for a down payment in such a housing market is unattainable.

that is 40% for 4 people or 10% each... and you will notice I left out many costs like fuel / car maintenance. Life is different when you arent single

My home is single income, two people. I don't see the point in dividing the what remains equally amongst each household member when there are so many expenses that can benefit more than one person and there will be different wants and needs at different times.

Living paycheck-to-paycheck means if you miss one paycheck, you'll have bills you can't pay. With the numbers you've provided, I don't see how your income and essentials would force you to not have savings to cover a few months. You didn't mention how many income sources your household has; even if 75% is from one source, having a second source does add a lot of security.

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