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A Lengthy, Pedantic Review of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver)

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Re: A Lengthy, Pedantic Review of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver)

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Post by jiveturkey »

megaman22 wrote: post #33
panarky wrote: post #31

When the display goes to sleep due to lack of input or whatever, you have to drag upwards with your mouse to unlock the screen. Like some common dirty frickin' smart phone. Yes! Dragging a window to the top of the screen maximizes the window. FOR GODS SAKE WHY. Double yes!

I will never understand why Ubuntu took a very nice desktop Linux distribution, and fucked it up with all these mobile and tablet centric UI absurdities.

Never? It's not that hard to understand. To gain market share.

Current users aren't going to abandon it because of these various stupidities. The market they need to capture is the market that wants a look-and-feel-alike product.

Re: A Lengthy, Pedantic Review of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver)

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Post by wutbrodo »

wilsonnb wrote: post #242
danShumway wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I tend to be pretty critical of Linux because I do genuinely believe there's a lot of stuff in Linux that's really bad. Would I ever give it up and switch to Windows/Mac? No, never in a million years. Compared to modern Windows 10, Gnome's UX is masterful. Linux has actually come pretty far - set up is still annoying, and some problems are still unnecessarily difficult to solve, but for the most part once you get eve…

I was using Gnome on Fedora for a while but I switched to Windows 10 a few months ago and can't say I've had any problems with the UX. Window snapping works. Minimizing windows works. You can do that thing where it shows a small version of everything you have open on both (win+tab on Win10, don't remember the Gnome shortcut). Recommending Linux to someone over Windows seems insane to me unless that person is literall…

> unless that person is literally just using a web browser for everything or they are a developer

This describes the personal desktop usage of all of almost every single person I know. I put my dad on Linux Mint almost a decade ago, because regular tech support got much more difficult once I moved away for college. The calls for help got cut down by a factor of 10 after the switch.

Its made some strides, but at least back then, Windows was way too complex for probably the bottom half of the distribution of tech savvy users.

Re: A Lengthy, Pedantic Review of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver)

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Post by sametmax »

mynewtb wrote: post #113
sametmax wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Once a week is insane. I have 4 computers and 2 phones. No time for that. My mother update her distro twice a year, when I come over and think about it.

Time for what? Just use automation.

If you read the other comments, you'll note that it's exactly what we are talking about: we install ubuntu because we don't want to do stuff, we want the OS to mostly work out of the box and require the least setup possible.

Re: A Lengthy, Pedantic Review of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver)

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Post by criddell »

jhasse wrote: post #348
criddell wrote: post #345

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try this: dconf write /org/gnome/shell/extensions/classic-overrides/edge-tiling false

Didn't change anything.

How about:

    dconf write /org/gnome/mutter/edge-tiling false

Re: A Lengthy, Pedantic Review of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver)

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Post by gkya »

da_chicken wrote: post #192
friesen wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can also just press enter and type your password like normal.

Yeah, but for the past 25 years or so, the conventional way to wake up a desktop computer whose monitor has gone to sleep was a nonspecific mouse wiggle or keyboard press. Why change that? Like how big of a deal was accidentally waking up your monitor? What problem are we fixing? What's our usability goal here? Is this requirement discoverable to the user or not?

The keypresses go directly to the password box BTW. That is, you don't have to "swipe" or hit return before you can type your password, you can just type away your password and hit return.

Re: A Lengthy, Pedantic Review of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver)

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Post by da_chicken »

pmontra wrote: post #321
da_chicken wrote: post #269

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I'm going to wake up a computer whose monitor is dark, I typically hit the super key, arrow keys, or sometimes the space bar and would never hit Enter as the first key. Why? I remember when people used to just turn monitors off manually before monitor power management, and I remember blank screen savers with first gen energy saving monitors that would turn off if they detected a blank screen. It only takes once wh…

I move the mouse, actually the touchpad. It's safer than hitting a key. Then the password prompt appears. Why force us to swype up too? And why up when on phones we swype horizontally, patents?

True, I do favor the mouse. I should have said, "If I'm going to wake up a computer using the keyboard."

Re: A Lengthy, Pedantic Review of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver)

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Post by madeel »

bovermyer wrote: post #67
madeel wrote: post #12

A review of common sense. Stop using things built on top of junk. 30 years and still working on building an OS, great we'll be doing this for the next 100 years as well.

If I understand correctly, you just said that any operating system that's still under development thirty years after its inception is garbage. Please clarify, because I can't believe that that's what you actually mean.

How long can you hammer on the nail and expect that it's going somewhere. There needs to be wholesome approach to software development.

Kernel is the not the only cure to OS problems. We need to take into consideration the stability of what we build on top of the kernel not just the kernel itself.

API stability across kernel + drivers + user land must not show signs of UFO.

Re: A Lengthy, Pedantic Review of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver)

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Post by madeel »

simion314 wrote: post #28
madeel wrote: post #12

A review of common sense. Stop using things built on top of junk. 30 years and still working on building an OS, great we'll be doing this for the next 100 years as well.

What OS are you using and what projects are you working on?

FreeBSD

Re: A Lengthy, Pedantic Review of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver)

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Post by madeel »

yellowapple wrote: post #258
madeel wrote: post #12

A review of common sense. Stop using things built on top of junk. 30 years and still working on building an OS, great we'll be doing this for the next 100 years as well.

"Stop using things built on top of junk" Indeed; that's why I stopped using Windows :)

did u mean Linux :)
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