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Re: Impersonators who are paid to flirt on dating apps

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Post by paulddraper » Fri, Apr 27, 2018, 3:45 PM UTC

dhimes wrote: post #166

paulddraper wrote: post #159

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Related to this, as a bit of cause and a bit of effect, is that std deviation intelligence/posperity/success is significantly wider for males. Mentally ill people and geniuses are overwhelmingly male.

Could that just be an observational effect? That it's maybe been historically easier for mentally ill women to hide at home, and for genius women to not be discovered? I realize I'm asking a question we can't answer at the moment, but I bring it up because we've "recently" (I'm old) learned that girls can struggle in school just like boys, but their problems go undetected because they behave in class and teachers are…

Doubtful. It's pretty well established that alcoholism, autism, psychopathy, and to some extent downs syndrome predominantly affect men. (And counterexample: depression is twice as common among women.)

Re: Impersonators who are paid to flirt on dating apps

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Post by throwaway84742 » Fri, Apr 27, 2018, 3:56 PM UTC

emiliobumachar wrote: post #214

throwaway84742 wrote: post #89

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A couple where both can produce sperm is unlikely to produce offspring either. Still don’t see what that has to do with anything.

I think the point is that the pregnancy risk issues you pointed out do not apply to lesbians, therefore do not help explain the lower promiscuity of lesbians compared to gay men.

But it does, if you consider the evolutionary perspective. Biologically, women are far more careful about sex, for the reasons I described. Sexual orientation is not hereditary by definition, so the evolutionary imperative and cost benefit analysis both stand. This is also why women prefer older and wealthier men.

Re: Impersonators who are paid to flirt on dating apps

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Post by eigenstuff » Fri, Apr 27, 2018, 3:58 PM UTC

Double_a_92 wrote: post #148

heartbreak wrote: post #143

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> There should be a system that "punishes" women for being picky I don’t want to misinterpret you, so is this what you meant to write?

Yes, but that's why punish is in " ". There's an obvious imbalance in pickyness between the genders. So counter-weight that somehow. It should encourage being picky for men, and discourage it for women.

As a woman, what if I know what I want, it's hard to find in my area, and I have to dig through a lot of noise to find it? Should I then just right swipe on a bunch of dudes I'm not interested in, leading them on and wasting everybody's time, just so I can keep using the app? This is absurd.

Re: Impersonators who are paid to flirt on dating apps

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Post by 0xdeadbeefbabe » Fri, Apr 27, 2018, 3:58 PM UTC

magduf wrote: post #161

kofejnik wrote: post #138

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okcupid published some nice research into this, iirc women consider ~80% males to be "below average". So female standards are seriously skewed towards a small number of super-alphas, who, given a totally free market, would get all the dates

Yeah, but what about the flip side? Not all women are desirable to men: fat, unattractive, already have kids, etc. There's a lot of women who just never get a date, because their photos aren't very attractive and men want pretty women (I'm a man and I'll admit this readily: if a woman is a little overweight that's an automatic disqualifier for me).

pretty == underdeveloped. Ignore this phenomenon to your own peril.

Re: Impersonators who are paid to flirt on dating apps

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Post by twothamendment » Fri, Apr 27, 2018, 3:59 PM UTC

Back in the chat room days, I jumped into one that I knew was frequented by a male coworker. I'm male, but picked a female name and started to chat with him. Since we were local he suggested meeting up. That would have been a bit awkward, so I gave him the address to my friend's all girls apartment and the name of her roommate. She ended up marrying the stranger who showed up unannounced at her door.

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Post by StellarTabi » Fri, Apr 27, 2018, 4:02 PM UTC

dhimes wrote: post #166

paulddraper wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Related to this, as a bit of cause and a bit of effect, is that std deviation intelligence/posperity/success is significantly wider for males. Mentally ill people and geniuses are overwhelmingly male.

Could that just be an observational effect? That it's maybe been historically easier for mentally ill women to hide at home, and for genius women to not be discovered? I realize I'm asking a question we can't answer at the moment, but I bring it up because we've "recently" (I'm old) learned that girls can struggle in school just like boys, but their problems go undetected because they behave in class and teachers are…

Heck, even today, I've noticed a lot of people don't know women can have austism/aspergers.

Re: Impersonators who are paid to flirt on dating apps

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Post by Karrot_Kream » Fri, Apr 27, 2018, 4:04 PM UTC

twothamendment wrote: post #245

Back in the chat room days, I jumped into one that I knew was frequented by a male coworker. I'm male, but picked a female name and started to chat with him. Since we were local he suggested meeting up. That would have been a bit awkward, so I gave him the address to my friend's all girls apartment and the name of her roommate. She ended up marrying the stranger who showed up unannounced at her door.

Now that's a hell of a story! We're you invited to the wedding?

Re: Impersonators who are paid to flirt on dating apps

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet » Fri, Apr 27, 2018, 4:05 PM UTC

6cd6beb wrote: post #26

I figured something like this would exist, but I don't think it's very useful. I've walked the dark path of trying to implement "pickup artist" material(can't imagine that'll be received well), and I can say that: A) an objective approach works (if you're humble and willing to recognize/adjust for failure) B) there's a torrent of snake oil out there C) you learn a lot when you try this stuff. A lot. A lot of that mat…

> I've walked the dark path of trying to implement "pickup artist" material(can't imagine that'll be received well)

It's really kind of a shame that the entire pickup community is judged by the scummy, the scammy, and the worst of the MRA/Redpillers (themselves judged by the worst among them) because they really do have the ability to help. Society has given us a completely broken model of how attraction works, and if you don't learn that that model is just something people talk about as a form of virtue-signalling, you try and apply it and find out just how crap it is. You get frustrated, angry, and depressed because the world doesn't conform to your broken model, and when you turn to people for help they feed you back that same broken model.

The real value of pickup isn't techniques, 'game', or tricks, it's showing you how utterly ridiculous that broken model is and helping you to construct a more accurate one.

Re: Impersonators who are paid to flirt on dating apps

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Post by StellarTabi » Fri, Apr 27, 2018, 4:07 PM UTC

nkrisc wrote: post #194

cm2187 wrote: post #96

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Particularly given that in the current environment any form of flirting can be treated as sexual harassment and have dire consequences for the party taking the initiative.

If you think that flirting can be mistaken as sexual harassment then that tells me you have no idea how to flirt.

It is harassment when 30 random guys are constantly piling on unwanted flirt after unwanted flirt.

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Post by richardhod » Fri, Apr 27, 2018, 4:23 PM UTC

bartread wrote: post #152

pc86 wrote: post #149

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The world mourns.

Hmm. I'm not sure why my comment above is getting downvotes. It seems like a perfectly rational response to the very interesting insider revelation posted by the parent. To be honest I'd suspected this for a while based on conversations with female friends, and had therefore considered shutting down the relevant accounts. Now I've had it confirmed, it's simply provided the push I needed: why continue to do something…

response ot your note: mostly because the traditional HN culture values comments with content in them, rahter than joke filler comments. Your second comment appears to fit in much better!