The Fall of Eclipse (2016)

I’m not sure that decreasing demand in Java is what led to a Jetbrains Java IDE overtaking Eclipse. The total pie may be smaller, which in itself is probably debatable and I’m not going to bother researching, but I believe the takeover has more to do with an active android programming ecosystem than any of the other factors mentioned in the article. It would be interesting to see a breakdown between IntelliJ editions with Android Studio broken into its own product line.

Re: The Fall of Eclipse (2016)

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Post by twodave » Fri, Apr 27, 2018, 2:25 PM UTC

peterhogg wrote: post #3

I wonder how much of this was due to android no longer shipping it's SDK as an eclipse plugin, but moving to android studio

This. That said, the gripes listed in the article are minor to working with Android Studio and gradle on a medium sized codebase. Yuck

Re: The Fall of Eclipse (2016)

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Post by chasingthewind » Fri, Apr 27, 2018, 2:26 PM UTC

I don't really find this convincing. It seems like the data comes from a survey conducted by ZeroTurnaround which isn't really scientific evidence. I have a feeling that there is still going to be a significant market for a full featured, free Java IDE for a long time to come, though that's also an unscientific opinion :)

Re: The Fall of Eclipse (2016)

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Post by pikzel » Fri, Apr 27, 2018, 2:26 PM UTC

Back then, Eclipse was this big, bloated and slow IDE. IntelliJ was slim, fast and much more intuitive and powerful in terms of refactoring, etc. Today, IntelliJ is big, bloated and turning slow.

Which IDE will be the next big thing?

Re: The Fall of Eclipse (2016)

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Post by stupidcar » Fri, Apr 27, 2018, 2:27 PM UTC

sungju1203 wrote: post #2

that's due to decreasing demand in java.

[citation needed]

Re: The Fall of Eclipse (2016)

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Post by ethbro » Fri, Apr 27, 2018, 2:29 PM UTC

Eclipse has for years felt like someone generalized both IBM and Java's beliefs and built an IDE.

That's good for some types of coding, but bad for others.

... then the nail in the coffin was going down the rabbit hole with plugins. The bazaar model only works if you have enough shopkeeps. (No offense intended to the gracious maintainers of Eclipse packages, but many could do with a LOT more people helping)

Re: The Fall of Eclipse (2016)

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Post by fs111 » Fri, Apr 27, 2018, 2:29 PM UTC

sungju1203 wrote: post #2

that's due to decreasing demand in java.

Do you have any evidence to back that statement up? Java seems to be as popular as ever.