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A rundown of the new Gmail

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Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Inbox didn’t take off? That’s news to me! It’s the only way I use gmail, I haven’t used the old interface since inbox was released. It pairs with the mobile app really well.

I use a combination of Gmail on the desktop and Inbox on a phone. I tried to use Inbox on desktop for a while, but ended up switching back as the desktop version of Inbox was too dumbed down and controlling for my liking: - The mobile app arbitrarily doesn't allow labelling something and keeping it in the inbox. - It puts emails in the inbox under a folder when labelled by a filter, which usually ends obscuring impor…

I've done the exact same thing. Inbox was nice on-the-go, Gmail is nice on the desktop.

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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"Finally, a new confidential mode allows you to remove the option to forward, copy, download or print messages—useful for when you have to send sensitive information via email like a tax return or your social security number. You can also make a message expire after a set period of time to help you stay in control of your information." No, thanks. I like my e-mail archive under my own control.

I find this a rather dangerous precedent. At best, it's an incompatible extension over what would be standard email and it further expands Google's walled garden, and at worst it sets up a false expectation of security, ending up as little as snake oil and possibly setting up people to dangerous situations. Nothing hints at messages being PGP encrypted (Or being encrypted, period. "Recipient verification" just looks…

How would this work outside google's garde?

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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post #13

I can't see the "Try the new Gmail" setting. Is there a geographic/locale restriction? (I tried switching my account to English without luck)

I had the same experience, until I disabled uBlock Origin. Setting showed up instantly, and I turned it right back on.

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Inbox didn’t take off? That’s news to me! It’s the only way I use gmail, I haven’t used the old interface since inbox was released. It pairs with the mobile app really well.

I use a combination of Gmail on the desktop and Inbox on a phone. I tried to use Inbox on desktop for a while, but ended up switching back as the desktop version of Inbox was too dumbed down and controlling for my liking: - The mobile app arbitrarily doesn't allow labelling something and keeping it in the inbox. - It puts emails in the inbox under a folder when labelled by a filter, which usually ends obscuring impor…

I love Inbox on mobile but I stopped using it on Desktop because it was so slow (sluggish). I have top of the line systems and it still felt so sluggish. Don't have that problem on the app.

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Did you not figure out what was actually different about it? As far as I know Inbox bundles are a unique feature and one I could not do without.

The thing is, I didn't see anything new that made me wish to use it. I just saw new part to the interface that seemed useless to how I use gmail, so I went back.

Inbox bundles are a revelation. I guess it's a shame Google failed to get the message out better.

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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post #259

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I use both. Informaniak has decent webmail. IMAP is okay, didn't get SMTP to work with k9 android email client. I don't have my domain with them, I buy email/IMAP as a service. I think it is 17 Euros per year. gandi's IMAP seems more robust. Infos https://www.infomaniak.com/en/support/faq/1944/ordering-emai... Order (may have to change to English): https://www.infomaniak.com/en/hosting/e-mail

Why IMAP is only ok? Any particular downsides? Any hints on problems with SMTP? Those are my actual two main protocols to use the mail (I use gmail webmail only because their email is funny in terms of 'archiving' [delete & expunge sometimes works]) and k9mail is my main mobile client (Thunderbird on the desktop).

I live in China. This could be an IP thing or something.

On my Android k9 client I never got sendmail to work with informaniak.

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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The thing is, I didn't see anything new that made me wish to use it. I just saw new part to the interface that seemed useless to how I use gmail, so I went back.

Inbox bundles are a revelation. I guess it's a shame Google failed to get the message out better.

I, for one, hated bundles. They didn't give me enough control. I'm glad they worked well for you.

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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I'll probably stick to Inbox because the pin/sweep workflow is really nice, but snoozing was the real game changer for me and it's good that they've put that in Gmail proper now. The follow up thing looks nice too, that'd be nice in Inbox but could be tricky if messages are archived. "This has been pinned for x days" warnings would be neat.

When snoozing with Inbox, did it allow you to type in a snooze time that would be interpreted intelligently (e.g., "8 hours" or "3pm May 5")? Or does Inbox only allow you to select from a predefined list of options ("tomorrow", "next week") or use their clunky date picker? Both Streak (a Gmail plugin) and FollowUpThen (an email forwarding service) allowed you to type basically anything, which was way faster.

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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I'll probably stick to Inbox because the pin/sweep workflow is really nice, but snoozing was the real game changer for me and it's good that they've put that in Gmail proper now. The follow up thing looks nice too, that'd be nice in Inbox but could be tricky if messages are archived. "This has been pinned for x days" warnings would be neat.

When snoozing with Inbox, did it allow you to type in a snooze time that would be interpreted intelligently (e.g., "8 hours" or "3pm May 5")? Or does Inbox only allow you to select from a predefined list of options ("tomorrow", "next week") or use their clunky date picker? Both Streak (a Gmail plugin) and FollowUpThen (an email forwarding service) allowed you to type basically anything, which was way faster.

Nope it doesn't have that - I can definitely imagine it being useful but their defaults are pretty good in my experience. They do have "snooze until day of event" which is quite nice for things like train tickets or meetup confirmations. And they have location-based snoozing which is occasionally handy. Sounds like a nicer way to do it though now you mention it!
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