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Re: Impersonators who are paid to flirt on dating apps

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Post by mirimir »

laurieg wrote: post #2

It is very informative to make a an online dating profile of the opposite gender. I'm a man, but when I made an account on tinder with a female friend's pictures I was blown away by just how radically different the experience was. Almost every person would match with me. Everyone would message me straight away. If I didn't reply most would message again in a few hours. A few would get very angry/upset that I didn't r…

I'm reminded of RFJason's Craigslist experiment. He posted responses and images. Much hilarity ensued. Until he was sued by a guy in Illinois, and lost ~$75K.

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Post by icebraining »

swyx wrote: post #58
laurieg wrote: post #2

It is very informative to make a an online dating profile of the opposite gender. I'm a man, but when I made an account on tinder with a female friend's pictures I was blown away by just how radically different the experience was. Almost every person would match with me. Everyone would message me straight away. If I didn't reply most would message again in a few hours. A few would get very angry/upset that I didn't r…

threads like these make me despair about ever dating ever again. as a society we should be concerned about what tinder and bumble are doing to us, but -no one- has the power to stop it because it appeals to such base instincts.

What are they doing to us?

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Post by baron816 »

aphextron wrote: post #44
laurieg wrote: post #2

It is very informative to make a an online dating profile of the opposite gender. I'm a man, but when I made an account on tinder with a female friend's pictures I was blown away by just how radically different the experience was. Almost every person would match with me. Everyone would message me straight away. If I didn't reply most would message again in a few hours. A few would get very angry/upset that I didn't r…

I worked for $large_dating_site for a number of years. The real genius of Tinder was giving women the power. We came to the same realization as well: that no matter how bad you make the user experience for men, they will use the app endlessly if real women are there. Online dating business models are exclusively based around enticing men with sex, and giving women the power to choose precisely who they want.

What I’ve long wondered is how women react in the real world now that they have all the power on dating apps. Why would they try to find a date in any other way?

There were a few articles that came out a few years ago arguing that, no, dating apps were terrible for women because it makes men even more noncommittal with such easy access to dates. My hypothesis was that the women they interviewed for those pieces were all going after the same small group of elite men. Thus, ~3% of the whole male population is sleeping around with ~20% of the female population. Makes me wonder if polygamy is the natural course of things.

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Post by cup-of-tea »

nikanj wrote: post #28
laurieg wrote: post #2

It is very informative to make a an online dating profile of the opposite gender. I'm a man, but when I made an account on tinder with a female friend's pictures I was blown away by just how radically different the experience was. Almost every person would match with me. Everyone would message me straight away. If I didn't reply most would message again in a few hours. A few would get very angry/upset that I didn't r…

Bumble is an interesting platform. The promise is that women have to message first, luring in men who are frustrated with lack of replies, and women who are frustrated with endless spam. From what I’ve heard from my friends, 99% of first messages on Bumble are ”hi” or a single emoji, kicking the ball straight back on the men’s side of the field. I wish dating as a research subject wasn’t so wrapped in weird MRA activ…

Women don't know how to do it. They don't have to. If men never learnt how to do it, most of us wouldn't be here.

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Post by pimeys »

throwaway_234 wrote: post #15
exelius wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And I’ve made more friends than dates with Her, so I guess the stereotypes hold true for lesbian apps as well.

Making friends or long term friends with benefits on Grindr or Scruff is a joke. We are all distracted by something new and shinier. So it's a joke for building anymore then a sex buddy relationship where you see each other every month or so for a release. Though that might be different for the really good looking to hot guys.

Uh. Maybe I'm then the exception that makes the rule... Four years now together and it just gets better every year. I may just have been very lucky.

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Post by icebraining »

siliconc0w wrote: post #62

Standard 'its a three legged stool' spiel. Photos, profile, and messaging. Really messaging is the easiest part. Here is a high-conversion-rate formula: 0) playful message about profile/photo 1) flirt for one or two exchanges 2) pivot to drinks. I like the highly elaborate, "Sounds like something we could take about over drinks, are you free this week?" Photos are probably the easiest way to stand out. Most guys seem…

If you're a 7 dating a 5, didn't the 5 break the constant?

Reminds me of this story:

One day in September, in a conference room populated with about 25 members of the Mac team, Steve [Jobs] was lecturing on how to hire.

"A players hire A players," he said. "B players hire C players. Do you get it?"

Apparently not. Somebody in the back of the room raised his hand and asked, "so how do you hire more B players?"

https://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&stor...

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Post by throwaway84742 »

noobermin wrote: post #67
pubby wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Take a look at the number of gay-male postings vs the number of lesbian-woman postings on casual hookup sites. Neither of these groups fall into "traditional gender roles", yet males still post significantly more.

Gender is distinct from sexual orientation. Moreover, women in general feel societal pressures to conform to gender norms regardless of their sexual preference, and it's hard to disentangle whether that's innate or not, and if gender norms (and norms about sex) were to change if we'd see different behavior.

These aren’t just arbitrary “social norms” though. Cost of accidentally getting pregnant and child bearing is very high and it simply does not exist for men.

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Post by freezepeaches »

hackits wrote: post #51
6cd6beb wrote: post #26

I figured something like this would exist, but I don't think it's very useful. I've walked the dark path of trying to implement "pickup artist" material(can't imagine that'll be received well), and I can say that: A) an objective approach works (if you're humble and willing to recognize/adjust for failure) B) there's a torrent of snake oil out there C) you learn a lot when you try this stuff. A lot. A lot of that mat…

Here is my two cents. A) Is superior in every way. Now let me fill in the gaps a little bit and maybe some-one else will find this information useful. First step is to look yourself in the mirror and ask yourself `do` you find yourself physically attractive? Do you have good posture, Do you have a low 10%-16% body fat percentage? Are you dressed to impress or just dress just it over with? If you answered no, then 100…

> First step is to look yourself in the mirror and ask yourself `do` you find yourself physically attractive? Do you have good posture, Do you have a low 10%-16% body fat percentage? Are you dressed to impress or just dress just it over with?

I've had exactly none of those things and I have had a fair degree of success with women. In fact, when I started bodybuilding/lifting, I found that my sex drive became unbearably strong and would scare away many women due to how aggressive I had become.

The key is not trying too hard and becoming a good conversationalist/wordsmith. That's what I like to call the right hand path. Of course, there is also the left hand path as well. That involves using pharmaceutical agents such as nootropics like Phenibut or GABA PAMs like Etizolam, but the cost is possible addiction, so I wouldn't recommend it.

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Post by siliconc0w »

icebraining wrote: post #76
siliconc0w wrote: post #62

Standard 'its a three legged stool' spiel. Photos, profile, and messaging. Really messaging is the easiest part. Here is a high-conversion-rate formula: 0) playful message about profile/photo 1) flirt for one or two exchanges 2) pivot to drinks. I like the highly elaborate, "Sounds like something we could take about over drinks, are you free this week?" Photos are probably the easiest way to stand out. Most guys seem…

If you're a 7 dating a 5, didn't the 5 break the constant? Reminds me of this story: One day in September, in a conference room populated with about 25 members of the Mac team, Steve [Jobs] was lecturing on how to hire. "A players hire A players," he said. "B players hire C players. Do you get it?" Apparently not. Somebody in the back of the room raised his hand and asked, "so how do you hire more B players?" https:/…

Like the speed of light, reference frames matter. The 5 convinced you they were a >=7.

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Post by Liron »

Founder of Relationship Hero (YC S17) here.

We also help with online-dating messages, but we'll help you to improve your own communication skills. Text flirting seems like such a trivial thing, but getting better at it can be life-changing, because it ultimately leads to better relationships.

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