Does anyone know more about this Netherlands thing it refers to? I can't find anything in relation to the Dutch government and usage of this FOSS communication tool.
Matrix and Riot Confirmed as the Basis for France’s Secure Instant Messenger App
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#32Does this make freedom of information requests less useful to the public?
Freedom of information....which amendment is that :P ?
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you feel like WhatsApp is not polished?
Do you really believe that Facebook (US company) has not complied with the US goverment and WhatsApp is safe for private communication?
Right!? Anyone who believes Facebook's WhatsApp is actually end to end encrypted and gives no access to the message data is laughably naive.
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#34Never heard of Matrix... looked it up; gross... python2.7
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#35Don’t suppose anyone knows why the Signal protocol wasn’t chosen?
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#36Don’t suppose anyone knows why the Signal protocol wasn’t chosen?
Because Signal is centralized. With Matrix they can deploy different servers across the gouvernement which interoperate. And potentially open it to the wider Matrix ecosystem
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#37Never heard of Matrix... looked it up; gross... python2.7
Also take a look at the network "protocol": JSON over HTTP longpolling, requiring usually a separate socket for each batch of messages sent or received (unless HTTP/2 is available, then it’s a bit less expensive, still has a massive overhead).
Matrix has so much potential – someday, when it’s built on technologically more ideal foundations.
Python2.7 you’ll barely notice, but the network overhead of the Matrix protocol becomes heavily noticeable by the end user (especially if your cell phone’s data plan runs out, and you’re stuck on 64kbps until the end of the month, then Matrix in larger rooms just becomes impossible)
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
If progressively more governmental communications are made through encrypted means, we cannot access them as citizens.
Thanks, I understand but those communications are not supposed to be accessible. This tool will be used by top level gouvernement employees.
Indeed
Re: Matrix and Riot Confirmed as the Basis for France’s Secure Instant Messenger App
#39Does anyone know more about this Netherlands thing it refers to? I can't find anything in relation to the Dutch government and usage of this FOSS communication tool.
It’s just early discussions between governments
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you feel like WhatsApp is not polished?
If polish is broadly defined as "something that was hitherto still missing in (claimed-to-be) end to end encrypted chat applications", then open source and a decent profit model are definitely features lacking from WhatsApp. Telegram is open source, but one has to consciously turn on encryption and it doesn't work on the web or desktop clients (and the profit model is non-existent). Signal doesn't work without Google…
Telegram is not really open source.
The server is not, and the Android code is updated months after each update, all commits being squashed(see issue[1]). Also their new app (Telegram X) is not open source.