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Google's “Director of Engineering” Hiring Test (2016)

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Re: Google's “Director of Engineering” Hiring Test (2016)

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So in the realm of infinite knowledge and experience candidates may have, the signal you want is based purely on the specific contrived questions of your choice. You should be aware this is not unbiased, it's just biased towards those who happen to have worked on similar problems to what you think is important. Google can probably get away with this due to the size of applicant pool, but when I see other companies ca…

It's hiring committee's job to read the resume, not the interviewer's.

What is the interviewer's job?

Re: Google's “Director of Engineering” Hiring Test (2016)

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This was posted previously, in October 2016: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12701272 An actual Google director of engineering pointed out that these are individual-contributor SWE/SRE questions (and I can attest I got very similar questions as a new college grad). As I commented previously: "Reading more closely, it sounds like they are not interviewing him for a director of engineering position; it just sounds…

>Also, a ton of this conversation makes a lot more sense if you make the assumption that the interviewee is misremembering the questions But (per [1]) then what would be the charitable mis-remembering of the recruiter saying "that's not the answer I have on my sheet of paper." If it were someone technically competent, that would never be the response; it would be a technical explanation of the error. The most likely…

It's not the derivative of distance vs time that matters but the integral of acceleration.

Re: Google's “Director of Engineering” Hiring Test (2016)

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It's hard to square that with the whole 10x engineer thing. It is true that hiring a security risk could be more damaging than rejecting a super talent, but all companies have systems in place that should reduce impact of incompetence and manage out inadevertantly hired incompetent people, because no hiring proccess is perfect. So about rejecting a super talent to avoid hiring an incompetent person. It seems that sta…

>It's hard to square that with the whole 10x engineer thing. That's because Google doesn't particularly ascribe to this idea. With good infra, tooling, and environment (management, mentorship, etc.) anyone can be "10X". >manage out inadevertantly hired incompetent people, because no hiring proccess is perfect. I'm not sure I've ever met an engineer at Google who I would call incompetent. Certainly some who are less c…

That matches my observations from dealing with Googlers: So far I've met quite a few very nice and clever people and none that made me questions their competence. Quite the opposite.

Re: Google's “Director of Engineering” Hiring Test (2016)

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You forgot one more thing, google is loosing enginers due to it creepy nature. I was invited to interviews on multiple occasions but they are one of the last companies I would work for. I don't care about money, wherever I was working, I had it more than enough to have a really good life and a thousand $ up or down doesnt make much of a difference. But working for a company that actually engages into global spying of…

"google is loosing enginers due to it creepy nature" Have a source for that?

Just duckduckgo it.

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> What these questions are are the standard set of pre-screening questions asked of a potential SRE IC or maybe TLM candidate. A SWE wouldn't be asked these questions, because they aren't related to the role. A SWE candidate still might get screened, but not with these questions. A question on Glassdoor (for a Director position) is in the same vein: "How do you tell if a calculator is 8 bit or 16 bit."[1] [1] https:/…

> How do you tell if a calculator is 8 bit or 16 bit. As someone who has reverse-engineered calculators, that question has me curious. You could implement the same external behavior regardless of what processor a calculator uses. So I can't see any way to determine the bit width. Is there an answer I'm missing? (Also the question ignores the many 4-bit calculators.) (Of course you could open up the chip and take a lo…

Can an 8 bit calculator display/operate on numbers bigger than 2^8?

Re: Google's “Director of Engineering” Hiring Test (2016)

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> How do you tell if a calculator is 8 bit or 16 bit. As someone who has reverse-engineered calculators, that question has me curious. You could implement the same external behavior regardless of what processor a calculator uses. So I can't see any way to determine the bit width. Is there an answer I'm missing? (Also the question ignores the many 4-bit calculators.) (Of course you could open up the chip and take a lo…

Can an 8 bit calculator display/operate on numbers bigger than 2^8?

Yes, by operating on multiple bytes

Re: Google's “Director of Engineering” Hiring Test (2016)

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You forgot one more thing, google is loosing enginers due to it creepy nature. I was invited to interviews on multiple occasions but they are one of the last companies I would work for. I don't care about money, wherever I was working, I had it more than enough to have a really good life and a thousand $ up or down doesnt make much of a difference. But working for a company that actually engages into global spying of…

I can understand this sentiment. To me, it feels like the Facebooks and Googles of the industry (by which I encompass other ad tech firms) are the 'banks' of 10 years ago. A few years ago, and I bet still today, there were/are a lot of new grads and experienced techies saying openly that they'd not want to work for a bank. Hopefully a similar spurning happens here.

Which is very ironic considering banks were the biggest tech employers at that time and some had pretty good money and working conditions as well.

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In my country of origin, multiple choice tests weren't really a thing in school so it never really came up. I guess the US has multiple choice tests at all levels.

Well the incident that sticks out in my memory was actually the kind where you show your work and circle your final answer. And as long as you get that work back and are confident you can then re-check the problem and can appeal with the teacher. That's a little harder to do with multiple choice because you have to replicate how you arrived at the answer you did, but the bigger problem is a general process problem. S…

I think this is the one

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/standardized-tests-are-...

Re: Google's “Director of Engineering” Hiring Test (2016)

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Liking money doesn't map to "best."

It doesn't. That said, in companies like Google, an eng has a lot of flexibility to choose the team they want to work on - so eventually many people find the thing which they really like. And good money on top of it is the icing on the cake. Also, I linked money since the parent comment talked about finding interesting ans similar paying role as Google's.

But is that true? I thought one interviewed for a generic slot at Google, with actual team placement being done after hiring to fill the slot.
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