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Google's “Director of Engineering” Hiring Test (2016)

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Re: Google's “Director of Engineering” Hiring Test (2016)

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ive had 3 google interviews, one on-site, and I can say without a doubt that its not only demoralizing but a complete waste of time. Reading their own outline of the hiring process and watching the youtube video, I was instructed that "goofy" google questions weren't asked anymore. No less than 5 minutes in the meeting room and I was met with "how do you build a datacenter on the moon?" followed by "how many cans of beer can you fit in a school bus?"

My latest phone screen about a year ago started off with a technical recruiter handing off from Mountain View to a recruiter in San Diego, then passing me back to a technical screener in mountain view who couldnt remember his questions. The follow-up technical review came from Boulder Colorado and focused on C programming and Linux dynamic libraries for a SRE position.

All in all I hope they get their hiring process sorted out. The most disparaging and frustrating thing is hearing "just keep trying! everyone has to apply at least N times before they get hired." The fact that this sentiment exists at all speaks volumes to the management climate.

Re: Google's “Director of Engineering” Hiring Test (2016)

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post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I make it a point to not read resumes unless I'm supposed to be asking questions about their contents, to avoid bias.

Is this sarcasm? You just make your entire hiring call on talking to the person without looking at their career, academics and skills?

If you’re one person out of many in the hiring process, and your role is to evaluate some specific skills, then yes, it may well be the case that knowing more about the candidate’s background will hurt more than it helps.

Re: Google's “Director of Engineering” Hiring Test (2016)

#63

I interviewed at Google a million years ago and got the same sort of "trivia list", which was surprising to me. I passed most of them and everyone seemed excited about me while I was there, but then I started criticizing the interview process and (more importantly) Google Finance as being pretty bad, and this really upset everyone. I could tell they weren't used to ever being criticized, pointing out how the intervie…

> then I started criticizing the interview process and (more importantly) Google Finance as being pretty bad, and this really upset everyone. Not rocket science, everybody. Who knew that people don't respond well to being criticized by strangers! Nobel Prize.

I'd love to hear thoughtful constructive criticism during an interview. But unsolicited negativity would be a bit of a flag.

Re: Google's “Director of Engineering” Hiring Test (2016)

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post #33

Google hiring has been fubar for years now. I think many of us here have been contacted ( unsolicited ) by Google for job interviews in the past. My Google interview story ends with me stopping the 8th interview ( 4th technical interview ) half-way in due to the frustration of listening to my interviewer loudly reply to text messages on his phone while I'm trying to write very complex source code into a shared Google…

I make it a point to not read resumes unless I'm supposed to be asking questions about their contents, to avoid bias.

To avoid bias? As in to be completely unprepared? Wouldn't reading the résumé give you a better idea of the interviewee's background, and allow you to better assess him?

Re: Google's “Director of Engineering” Hiring Test (2016)

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> Recruiter: that's not the answer I have on my sheet of paper. When I got a similar screening from GOOG, the recruiter confessed upfront to having these technical questions scripted and seemed much more flexible than this particular one. > 7. what is the name of the KILL signal? The question might have been "what is the default signal sent by 'kill'?" The answer to that question is SIGTERM and not SIGKILL. The recru…

Also, if you can't have enough of a conversation with someone who's unfamiliar with the "kill" command to figure out exactly what signal they have in mind even when they're using the wrong words, and without getting upset at them or deciding that they're beneath you, you're not qualified to be a director of engineering.

That is true, but on the other hand, if the person reading the script stands on the wording of the question, as soon as they read the "correct" answer you've lost. There's now no recovering, because "obviously" now that you've heard the right answer you're just spinning to explain away your failure.

(As with others, I will stipulate that accuracy in this report may not be 100%, but I'm not necessarily willing to assign it 0% either, especially as I've encountered people like that myself.)

Re: Google's “Director of Engineering” Hiring Test (2016)

#66
A lot of these were the recruiter having no understanding of what they were asking, but the bit counting is just nonsense. A lookup table requires an extra memory access that by its nature is incoherent.

Contrast that to being able to read the memory straight through and having it prefetched, then using the popcnt instruction:

https://www.felixcloutier.com/x86/POPCNT.html

Re: Google's “Director of Engineering” Hiring Test (2016)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is similar to taking standardized tests where you are smarter than the question-writer. What would you select as the answer to the following question: " x is an integer. If x² = 16, then x =? A. 1. B. 2. C. 4. D. 16. E. Not enough information. " Think hard and tell me what you would select. For me it is VERY clear that I have to select C, 4. It is just as clear that it is the wrong answer, and the correct answer…

IRL the misinformed question author wouldn't include an "E" as a possible answer and that's your cue to select C.

There are different clues in different contexts. The hardest is if there is a very technical definition that makes another answer more correct.

Maybe in a test of English:

"John has less _____ than Mary. So they decided to go to Mary's apartment for breakfast."

A. Bread

B. Window

C. Eggs

D. Times

"

This is an incredibly stupid question oh my God. What would I even pick.

All of the choices, and the whole question, is so stupid.

But anyway obviously they want you to pick "eggs" because you are supposed to know it is good for breakfast. You can tell how low the bar is by its inclusion of window, as though you might not know this simple word.

It is ungrammatical to say "less window than", "less times than" and "less eggs than" (you're supposed to say fewer eggs than.)

Only "bread" is grammatical in that sentence and it makes just as much sense as all the other stupid choices, but I would pick the ungrammatical choice C (it's a hard one though, the resulting sentence is stupid) versus the grammatically correct choice A.

This is just a technical distinction though.

Re: Google's “Director of Engineering” Hiring Test (2016)

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post #13

This is the pre-screen, very likely conducted by a poorly-trained (or incompetent) recruiter. IIRC, there is a ton of room for response variety in the answers, and the screeners are trained to handle them (obv. very difficult to do well.) The pre-screens are act as first-pass filters before the actual interviews (conducted by engineers.) Google does many hundreds (if not thousands) of these a week, and this false-neg…

source?

Re: Google's “Director of Engineering” Hiring Test (2016)

#69
So, as part of my job, I have been the hiring manager for directors for Google (3 in the past 6 months), and recruit quite a bit.

This was a simple phone screen, and it seems the recruiter was not given a good set of questions.

However, I actually doubt it was really a director of engineering screen, despite this person's experience level (maybe it should have been, but ...).

I say this because I know a lot of the leadership recruiters, (it's a separate thing from regular SWE/manager recruiting), and I know how the process works. They don't screen candidates this way normally precisely because it doesn't make sense. (Whatever you may think of Google's regular non-leadership recruiting :P)

Instead, they ask question directly relevant to what the hiring manager wants/needs (IE i give them the questions to use), and in most cases, do just enough to know whether it would be a waste of time for the hiring manager to talk to them. At which point, a hiring manager like me talks to the candidate and decides whether to bring them in for onsites.

This particular set of questions seems closer to standard non-leadership SRE questions.

Re: Google's “Director of Engineering” Hiring Test (2016)

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post #43

This was posted previously, in October 2016: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12701272 An actual Google director of engineering pointed out that these are individual-contributor SWE/SRE questions (and I can attest I got very similar questions as a new college grad). As I commented previously: "Reading more closely, it sounds like they are not interviewing him for a director of engineering position; it just sounds…

and i just commented the same thing i did then, because i completely didn't notice this was from 2016 :)
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