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A Lengthy, Pedantic Review of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver)

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Re: A Lengthy, Pedantic Review of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver)

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I'm not mincing my words here but Gnome 3 is just an unpolishable turd and needs to go away. It's just trying to be original and clever but has missed the mark so incredibly far that makes it the most frustrating thing possible to use on a daily basis. I have tried on and off for 2 years and it is just eye gouging pain to use. I crawl back to xubuntu and XFCE in the end every time as it does the service of getting ou…

Checking in as someone who likes the lean nature GNOME Shell quite a bit, yes, it's different, but not bad. XFCE is just too clunky, not with it, (i.e. Wayland),old-school feeling for me and pretty ugly without serious work. Plasma is in the best position here, as you can make of it what you want, but GNOME is great for a quick setup and isn't too hard to learn. Complainers will of course be heard the loudest, but by GNOME usage numbers, I'd say many think it's at least ok, since it's fairly easy to swap desktops in Linux land and I still see many people on GNOME.

Re: A Lengthy, Pedantic Review of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver)

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pacman -Syu was always a dangerous ride in the past, but the last two years it hasn't broken anything for me, ever. I upgrade all packages about once a week.

Once a week is insane. I have 4 computers and 2 phones. No time for that. My mother update her distro twice a year, when I come over and think about it.

Time for what? Just use automation.

Re: A Lengthy, Pedantic Review of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver)

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post #95
post #82

I'm not mincing my words here but Gnome 3 is just an unpolishable turd and needs to go away. It's just trying to be original and clever but has missed the mark so incredibly far that makes it the most frustrating thing possible to use on a daily basis. I have tried on and off for 2 years and it is just eye gouging pain to use. I crawl back to xubuntu and XFCE in the end every time as it does the service of getting ou…

> terrible QC of systemd I haven't had any problems with systemd. YMMV?

systemd really is fine until you have a hosed system or it does something wrong or a scary bug is deemed a feature by the totalitarian maintainer and then it's like fighting your way through a dungeons and dragons adventure book written by someone who has been on the crystal meth.

Re: A Lengthy, Pedantic Review of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver)

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post #107
post #82

I'm not mincing my words here but Gnome 3 is just an unpolishable turd and needs to go away. It's just trying to be original and clever but has missed the mark so incredibly far that makes it the most frustrating thing possible to use on a daily basis. I have tried on and off for 2 years and it is just eye gouging pain to use. I crawl back to xubuntu and XFCE in the end every time as it does the service of getting ou…

Just to balance this out: I suspect for every passionate Gnome-3-hater there are 10 users who think it's fine.

I bet with systemd it is even higher, 100:1 or 1000:1, but the few haters are extremely noisy.

Re: A Lengthy, Pedantic Review of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver)

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UI is simply terribly hard. And the open source “bazaar” model also happens to be at its worst in UI work. You kinda need a dictator with taste to get UIs right, and the Linux community has neither dictators nor taste.

A counterexample to that is the many other DEs done right: Xfce, Cinnamon, etc.

Why do you think they are less popular? Maybe it's a matter of taste?

Re: A Lengthy, Pedantic Review of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver)

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post #68

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I'm very unfamiliar with gnome as an organization. What are the political reasons you're referencing?

>The GNOME Foundation has run into cash flow problems [...] got into this situation through its Outreach Program for Women [...] "The Outreach Program for Women (OPW) helps women (cis and trans) and genderqueer get involved in free and open source software." https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTY2Mjc

You're saying their software is poor quality* because they employ... Women?

* Your opinion, not mine.

Re: A Lengthy, Pedantic Review of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver)

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Mint the distro with shity security model right? You better stay with Ubuntu / Debian they know what they're doing on that side.

What was wrong with mint exactly?

They turn off kernel security updates by default.

Re: A Lengthy, Pedantic Review of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver)

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Is there a blog post detailing the state of Ubuntu desktop apps (i.e. a list of apps that don't have a port)? And does hi-resolution display support work properly? I'm thinking about switching but there are certain nice things about OSX that I can't live without.

Re: A Lengthy, Pedantic Review of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver)

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post #82

I'm not mincing my words here but Gnome 3 is just an unpolishable turd and needs to go away. It's just trying to be original and clever but has missed the mark so incredibly far that makes it the most frustrating thing possible to use on a daily basis. I have tried on and off for 2 years and it is just eye gouging pain to use. I crawl back to xubuntu and XFCE in the end every time as it does the service of getting ou…

UI is simply terribly hard. And the open source “bazaar” model also happens to be at its worst in UI work. You kinda need a dictator with taste to get UIs right, and the Linux community has neither dictators nor taste.

you can make tiled managers look pretty tasteful... https://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/
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