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A Lengthy, Pedantic Review of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver)

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Re: A Lengthy, Pedantic Review of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver)

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Post by bovermyer »

just_testing wrote: post #52
willvarfar wrote: post #3

The technical audience who actually use Linux desktops want more customization not less, and the crowd that Ubuntu seems to be chasing doesn't seem to actually exist? Hmm this doesn't make me want to leave xubuntu any time soon, although I too have noticed the recent xfce issues mentioned in the article.

Yesterday, I finished converting a bike shop to Ubuntu Linux only. They are ridiculously happy because: - device drivers actually work - they don't have to worry anymore about viruses - they can use old machines without trouble So yeah, zero customization - but a way better experience than Windows. So, your crowd not only exists, but got me a new bicycle!

That's awesome. Was that a barter deal? Fix-our-computers-get-a-bike?

Re: A Lengthy, Pedantic Review of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver)

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Post by facorreia »

DataWorker wrote: post #17
Thaxll wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mint the distro with shity security model right? You better stay with Ubuntu / Debian they know what they're doing on that side.

What was wrong with mint exactly?

Their website was hacked once...

I'm a happy Linux Mint user. I've used every major OS in the last 30 years, and that's the one I like the most. There will be a new release soon based on Ubuntu 18.04.

Re: A Lengthy, Pedantic Review of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver)

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Post by sametmax »

yoodenvranx wrote: post #49
panarky wrote: post #31

When the display goes to sleep due to lack of input or whatever, you have to drag upwards with your mouse to unlock the screen. Like some common dirty frickin' smart phone. Yes! Dragging a window to the top of the screen maximizes the window. FOR GODS SAKE WHY. Double yes!

> Dragging a window to the top of the screen maximizes the window. FOR GODS SAKE WHY. I use this all the time when working with several monitors. Just press Alt, click somewhere onto a window, move this window to a different monitor, smash window to the top of the screen. Bam, instant monitor-switching of full-screen windows. (And yes, usually I use keyboard shortcuts for this but when the hand is already on the mous…

I love those features so much. Dragging the window near a side of the screen make it fills half of it too.

Re: A Lengthy, Pedantic Review of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver)

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Post by Insanity »

blfr wrote: post #7
willvarfar wrote: post #3

The technical audience who actually use Linux desktops want more customization not less, and the crowd that Ubuntu seems to be chasing doesn't seem to actually exist? Hmm this doesn't make me want to leave xubuntu any time soon, although I too have noticed the recent xfce issues mentioned in the article.

As a member of the technical audience who actually uses Linux (Ubuntu), I want almost no customization. I want sane and tested defaults, not a bunch of knobs to adjust things. I mourn the loss of the Unity Desktop which was virtually perfect OOTB. It had a great management of the screen space, especially on laptops, it was pretty, and it worked. I wouldn't even change the desktop background.

As a software engineer, I don't want to tweak my OS. I want a terminal / IDE and.. well that's pretty much it. As long as getting my tools to work is easy I don't care for the tweaking

Re: A Lengthy, Pedantic Review of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver)

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Post by sametmax »

the_duke wrote: post #48
Karunamon wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because rolling releases give you a terrible choice between constant upgrades all the time (read: resource and network usage and reboots), and if you don't, a high likelihood of something breaking when you finally do that pacman -Syu. There's nothing wrong with snapshot releases in a distro focused on usability and stability.

pacman -Syu was always a dangerous ride in the past, but the last two years it hasn't broken anything for me, ever. I upgrade all packages about once a week.

Once a week is insane.

I have 4 computers and 2 phones. No time for that.

My mother update her distro twice a year, when I come over and think about it.

Re: A Lengthy, Pedantic Review of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver)

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Post by bovermyer »

madeel wrote: post #12

A review of common sense. Stop using things built on top of junk. 30 years and still working on building an OS, great we'll be doing this for the next 100 years as well.

If I understand correctly, you just said that any operating system that's still under development thirty years after its inception is garbage.

Please clarify, because I can't believe that that's what you actually mean.

Re: A Lengthy, Pedantic Review of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver)

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Post by syndev »

yAnonymous wrote: post #32
Karunamon wrote: post #25

It seems like none of the dumb GNOME warts were plastered over. There's still the idiotic, screen-taking-over activities menu (because, yknow, it should take 3840x2160 pixels to show a fucking app launcher. Did nobody learn from Windows 8? The GNOME devs are officially more hard-headed than Microsoft - an achievement of some note) There's still the swipe-to-unlock desktop There's the default Apple scrolling behavior…

GNOME is what you get when you build a team for political reasons instead of hiring good developers and designers. To make it good you'd have to exchange the whole team first. It's LXDE for me from here on out.

I'm very unfamiliar with gnome as an organization. What are the political reasons you're referencing?

Re: A Lengthy, Pedantic Review of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver)

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Post by bachmeier »

billfruit wrote: post #19

Why doesn't Ubuntu (and many other distributions) change to a rolling release model. Having switched to Arch, though admittedly the installation process is much more elaborate than of Ubuntu, once you customise it to one's preference, it is much more convenient to keep upgrading individual packages as they are evolving.

When I used Arch some years ago, I regularly updated the system, but that meant things broke reguarly. Not updating regularly is not an option. Sure, there was always an easy fix, but that's not the experience most of us are after.

The bigger problem with the rolling release model was that package maintainers would leave packages sit for long periods of time, and then they'd write long, arrogant posts in the forum telling users that it's no big deal to compile your software. That can't happen with a regular release schedule.

Re: A Lengthy, Pedantic Review of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver)

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Post by Thaxll »

DataWorker wrote: post #17
Thaxll wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mint the distro with shity security model right? You better stay with Ubuntu / Debian they know what they're doing on that side.

What was wrong with mint exactly?

See this: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/60ddd4/comments_on_l...
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