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Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Post by xtracto »

indianajensen wrote: post #191
OmarIsmail wrote: post #45

The most exciting news here is that they're iterating on Gmail again. It was clear that Gmail was stagnating for a while as they were investing in Inbox. It's unfortunate that Inbox didn't take off, but now that it looks like they're putting the effort behind Gmail proper, we'll be seeing continual updates and improvements. In just the past 6 months we've seen native Gmail add-ons (that work across web and mobile) an…

I've been an avid Inbox user for years. Anyone knows what's next for Inbox? Looks like it might be folded back into Gmail and discontinued as standalone?

I am sure we will soon see it in the Google Graveyard ( https://www.wordstream.com/articles/retired-google-projects )

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Post by glassofbees »

jbob2000 wrote: post #177
OmarIsmail wrote: post #45

The most exciting news here is that they're iterating on Gmail again. It was clear that Gmail was stagnating for a while as they were investing in Inbox. It's unfortunate that Inbox didn't take off, but now that it looks like they're putting the effort behind Gmail proper, we'll be seeing continual updates and improvements. In just the past 6 months we've seen native Gmail add-ons (that work across web and mobile) an…

Inbox didn’t take off? That’s news to me! It’s the only way I use gmail, I haven’t used the old interface since inbox was released. It pairs with the mobile app really well.

I use a combination of Gmail on the desktop and Inbox on a phone. I tried to use Inbox on desktop for a while, but ended up switching back as the desktop version of Inbox was too dumbed down and controlling for my liking:

- The mobile app arbitrarily doesn't allow labelling something and keeping it in the inbox.

- It puts emails in the inbox under a folder when labelled by a filter, which usually ends obscuring important messages.

- It doesn't have something equivalent to inbox sections (I use the crap out of these as my inbox has multiple different streams of things to action in it from multiple email aliases - personal, business, opensource, travel, bills, etc).

- As others have mentioned, Inbox is not very information dense.

Google sure had a challenge updating Gmail, since there's so many people using it in different ways. It'd be really interesting to see their top usage patterns summarised.

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Post by dmd »

indianajensen wrote: post #191
OmarIsmail wrote: post #45

The most exciting news here is that they're iterating on Gmail again. It was clear that Gmail was stagnating for a while as they were investing in Inbox. It's unfortunate that Inbox didn't take off, but now that it looks like they're putting the effort behind Gmail proper, we'll be seeing continual updates and improvements. In just the past 6 months we've seen native Gmail add-ons (that work across web and mobile) an…

I've been an avid Inbox user for years. Anyone knows what's next for Inbox? Looks like it might be folded back into Gmail and discontinued as standalone?

I'll be real annoyed if they end Inbox, because I use inbox's Reminders heavily. I love having my todo items and emails in the same place, because that's what my inbox IS to me.

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Post by peatmoss »

bernardino wrote: post #264
peatmoss wrote: post #216

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having used and switched between a bunch of free-or-isp-or-university email addresses back in the 90s and even a little bit beyond, I have never been so glad as to have my own vanity domain. As it is, my email address has now survived three different providers. I’m a happy Fastmail user now, but there’s no way I’d accept an @fastmail.com email address. For me, $5 a month for ad free email that supports push notificat…

I should really switch over to Fastmail. I currently have a personal email w/ user@gmail.com but also a basic G-Suite email w/ firstname@domain.com. I would save $2 a month by doing so and have one email rather than two. Do you still have an account w/ Google, despite using Fastmail as your email provider? I was thinking of just deleting my entire Google account but I have my personal email address associated w/ so m…

I do still have the account with Google due to having used Google SSO with a few 3rd party services. I've thought about murdering those / changing my sign-in so I could get rid of that account, however.

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Post by EpicEng »

lmm wrote: post #247
EpicEng wrote: post #245

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>but "the US spent" is fair if we consider it to refer to the country as a whole. Of course, that's not what anyone means when they repeat this nonsense, and the entire point of the story is to create a narrative that the US government is bloated, wasteful, and stupid.

I've seen it more used to create a narrative about US culture as being overly technology-focused and lacking a sense of making do / good-enough. Shrug.

Regardless, using a BS story to push such a narrative is a bad idea.

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Post by glassofbees »

glassofbees wrote: post #272
jbob2000 wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Inbox didn’t take off? That’s news to me! It’s the only way I use gmail, I haven’t used the old interface since inbox was released. It pairs with the mobile app really well.

I use a combination of Gmail on the desktop and Inbox on a phone. I tried to use Inbox on desktop for a while, but ended up switching back as the desktop version of Inbox was too dumbed down and controlling for my liking: - The mobile app arbitrarily doesn't allow labelling something and keeping it in the inbox. - It puts emails in the inbox under a folder when labelled by a filter, which usually ends obscuring impor…

Update: disappointment - priority inbox sections haven't been updated. They're still limited to 2 by the UI, and the new UI still doesn't expose "with label, in inbox" that's been possible for years by modifying the HTML on the page. The Gmail server clearly supports this, so it's a shame they haven't implemented a UI for it. I hope this doesn't break the hack people have been using to get 4 sections with messages only from the inbox...

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Post by earenndil »

mcintyre1994 wrote: post #165
mimsee wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What they could do is put the contents in a video* and have the media be DRM'd. You couldn't take a screenshot, only a picture with your phone. *Or image, not really sure if that works.

Can you actually DRM a video so that the OS won't let it be screenshotted? I usually use the snipping tool for Windows screenshots, does DRM stop that working somehow?

Even if you can, it's possible to circumvent that (see: analogue loophole).

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Post by sterlind »

samstave wrote: post #129
sterlind wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For example, my setup: Gmail: any email service Android: root it, use a custom launcher and utility apps. GMaps: Waze (lets you provide your own speech samples, even) You don't have to secede from these whole platforms - just extend around them and reach into them.

Pffft You’re examples: Google Google Google. Your examples are all fucking google.

Could you explain how "any email service" means Google? Is ProtonMail a Google service?

OP's question was about how power users can keep UX control while services degrade their features to cater to average users. That's what I care about, not ideological purity in my software stack.

People like you are the tech equivalents of the militant vegan.

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Post by OmarIsmail »

CommanderData wrote: post #249
OmarIsmail wrote: post #45

The most exciting news here is that they're iterating on Gmail again. It was clear that Gmail was stagnating for a while as they were investing in Inbox. It's unfortunate that Inbox didn't take off, but now that it looks like they're putting the effort behind Gmail proper, we'll be seeing continual updates and improvements. In just the past 6 months we've seen native Gmail add-ons (that work across web and mobile) an…

Google add ons is a poor excuse for extending Gmails functionality. I tried to create a basic app a few months ago and it is extremely limited and feels very much beta. An example: extending compose functionality in any way is impossible. Add ons are limited to when the user opens an email, that's pretty much it. Try for yourself and see.

I built Streak's Gmail add-on (launch partner, and #1 add-on in the marketplace) so trust me when I say that I'm very aware of the platform's shortcomings :)

If you want to do something fancy then I highly recommend using the InboxSDK (inboxsdk.com).

But for basic functionality the add-ons are pretty sweet. Native mobile integration is huge, alongside massive a great distribution channel. Not sure if you've noticed in the new Gmail but they put a + button below the list of Calendar/Keep/Tasks icons that brings up the Add-On installation modal. That's pretty major.

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Post by crispinb »

ankitank wrote: post #135

Actually, the new gmail is: https://protonmail.com/

Am I right that services like tutanota & protonmail don't support email migration? That's an extreme regression from standard email. Doesn't it make them largely useless except for burner account use?
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