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90-minute ‘super commutes’ more common as Bay Area housing shortage intensifies

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Re: 90-minute ‘super commutes’ more common as Bay Area housing shortage intensifies

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My old neighbor in SF and commutes to Cupertino for work. So many people in the company do it, that the company has set up a hotel where employees can sleep if they don't want to head back to SF. His girlfriend is not happy about that arrangement.

Actually when I lived in SF, it took me over an hour to get to work in SOMA. We joke and call the outer Richmond the SF suburbs, because it takes as long to get to downtown from there as from the actual suburbs of most cities.

Re: 90-minute ‘super commutes’ more common as Bay Area housing shortage intensifies

#13

It's time to start acknowledging that this is never going to be fixed. SB 827 died when homeowners protested fiercely, and it doesn't look like any proposed replacements are going to get traction either. People just have too much of their equity tied up in their homes. I hate it, but I can also see where they're coming from: if you had a savings account that accounted for most of your net wealth and was appreciating…

If they permitted their land to be upzoned, the value of it would rise even faster than it already is, so I don't think financial incentives are the crux of the political opposition. Old home owners in the valley don't want anything to change and resent the change that has already happened.

Re: 90-minute ‘super commutes’ more common as Bay Area housing shortage intensifies

#14

FWIW, this is also true in Boston. I commute from southern NH to Harvard Sq. every day. Unless you have two substantial incomes, or are ok with sub-par schools and a tiny space, it's hard to live close to most economically dynamic cities.

No, this is because you chose to live extremely far away! There are plenty of places in Massachusetts that are closer and affordable, with decent schools. Every employee I've had who commuted from NH to Boston wound up pretty miserable because of the commute.

Re: 90-minute ‘super commutes’ more common as Bay Area housing shortage intensifies

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The sad fact is that long as people are willing to put up with this nothing is going to change. The crazy rents and terrible commutes sound insane to anyone living elsewhere but people are continuously more than happy to continue doing them to work at companies that haven't been priced out yet either. It's not an issue of social mobility either, since people living in the bay area are some of the most socially mobile workforce there is. Housing regulations may not be efficient given the circumstances but it'll only stop when everyone says enough is enough and leaves.

Re: 90-minute ‘super commutes’ more common as Bay Area housing shortage intensifies

#17

I realise new buildings are carbon intensive, but does anyone have the knowledge to do a back-of-the-envelope comparison of carbon emissions if these super-commuters were to move in to high-density housing that enabled them to walk or cycle to their jobs.

Implying high-density housing exists

Re: 90-minute ‘super commutes’ more common as Bay Area housing shortage intensifies

#18
Oh, tech companies. If only there were a way to have conversations about, create, and transmit computer programs using some kind of long-distance network. Maybe we could break the data up into "packets". Just thinking out loud here. Then maybe everyone creating textual output for a living wouldn't have to transport their physical body to an office.

We can dream.

Re: 90-minute ‘super commutes’ more common as Bay Area housing shortage intensifies

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I grew up in a suburb on the outer edges of the bay area where my father commuted over an hour every day. I also had two jobs that required me to commute over one hour. These experiences led me to vow that I would never take a job where I had to commute longer than 30 minutes. I'm sitting at ~20 minutes now and looking to shorten it, and it has made my life so much better.

Re: 90-minute ‘super commutes’ more common as Bay Area housing shortage intensifies

#20
90 minutes is now a "super commute"? hahaha.... HAHAHAHA... bwaaaaahahahahahahahahaha gasp haaaaahahahahahahahahaha.

a few years back, when i was working in palo alto and living in SJ/milpitas it regularly took me 90 minutes to make the 20 mile commute home.

needless to say, i quit that job, moved to the alameda county and found a job a mile from my house. now i actually have a SUPER commute, which means i can take the bus, ride my bike or walk depending on my mood. :)

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