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Ask HN: Anyone making money through algorithmic trading?

#1
Is there anyone here making money on smaller trading strategies (i.e. in the stock market or cryptocurrencies) that would not be interesting enough for larger algorithmic trading firms?

I'm aware the standard advice is that you will lose your shirt attempting to compete with algorithmic and HFT firms. But are there opportunities out there for smaller strategies to generate alpha? (I'm assuming yes, but would be great to find people who actually do this -- no need to disclose _how_ you actually do it, obviously)

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#3
You probably can't do HFT trading because you need to have capital to reduce latency. Maybe you can rent servers very close to the trading centers, but this still will cost money.

You can use http://www.quantopian.com to try out different algorithms. It will tell you how well your strategy works.

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#4
Yes. I've developed a simple strategy that algorithmically trades cryptocurrencies (mainly ETH and BTC because volume, but it would apply successfully to any of the others as well). The strategies are simple, they are based on simple technical indicators, and result in about 2 trades executed per day. The strategy can be applied to "normal" equities as well but it performs particularly well on cryptocurrencies due to the amount of volatility in the market. Also the amount of freely available data for cryptocurrencies makes implementation much easier (and cheaper).

Over the last 3 months, January to March, I've had a return of just under 50% (in spite of the massive down turn in the crypto market). Which sounds great, but I only turned it loose on about $250 so we're not talking about buckets of money here. With higher amounts of capital you run into other issues that would need to be addressed in the algorithm/strategy.

I've often been told the same thing (you can't beat HFT, large firms, etc) but in the end it's not about beating them. It's about finding a strategy that works, that can be automated, and having the patience to let it run and do it's thing. I only trade about 1 to 2 times per day (not HFT) and only rely on fundamental data (no inside info, no "get the data before everybody else and act on it", etc). Keep it simple.

Happy to answer any questions.

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#5

Yes. I've developed a simple strategy that algorithmically trades cryptocurrencies (mainly ETH and BTC because volume, but it would apply successfully to any of the others as well). The strategies are simple, they are based on simple technical indicators, and result in about 2 trades executed per day. The strategy can be applied to "normal" equities as well but it performs particularly well on cryptocurrencies due to…

Care to share a bit more on the strategy? I've been looking at exchange APIs and looking up strategies online, but I haven't started implementing anything. Wondering how you approached it once you had the idea to trade algorithmically.

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#6

You probably can't do HFT trading because you need to have capital to reduce latency. Maybe you can rent servers very close to the trading centers, but this still will cost money. You can use http://www.quantopian.com to try out different algorithms. It will tell you how well your strategy works.

quantopian.com sounds interesting. I am going to check it out.

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#8
I've been experimenting with this a lot. My code is all public still because I haven't made any giant gains or anything. But I have seen some success here and there. I've even got this one bot that learns from its past trades via ML and uses what it has learned to decide wether to make future trades or not. https://github.com/madchops1/Dutchess.ai

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#9
Well.. I'm trying :) Still backtesting, building my system, etc.. But I have high hopes. Like others have mentioned, it's probably not worth pursuing HFT, but it's still alot of work just dealing with micro second data (consuming all the data, executing multiple strategies, multiple order books, etc..)
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