Of all the provinces, why Beijing?
>Of all the provinces, why Beijing?
Because this guy lives there > https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cc/Xi_Jinpi...
Startup School Beijing
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#102I'm disappointed to know that YC has drank the cool-aid on China. Once you invest significantly in China, you quickly find yourselves beholden to the whims of the CCP. And for what? Such privileges as building their dystopian techno-autocracy for them? I don't see any signs in this statement that you are going into this with your eyes open to either the difficulties this will cause down the line, nor the morally "que…
China is the future though. As scary as that is, it’s still reasonable to invest in Chinese tech, at least if your plan is to make money. I don’t think westerners in general realize how advanced China is becoming. Being from Europe, visiting China is like stepping into a sci-fI novel. Not a happy one, mind you, but it’s becoming impossible to ignore.
> China is the future though. As scary as that is, it’s still reasonable to invest in Chinese tech, at least if your plan is to make money.
I don't have a lot of examples of successful western companies operating in China, they all seems to be blocked of at some point because of ""regulations"".
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#103I'm disappointed to know that YC has drank the cool-aid on China. Once you invest significantly in China, you quickly find yourselves beholden to the whims of the CCP. And for what? Such privileges as building their dystopian techno-autocracy for them? I don't see any signs in this statement that you are going into this with your eyes open to either the difficulties this will cause down the line, nor the morally "que…
What if this is just a way for American companies to acquire Chinese tech or talent?
It would be extremely stupid. Judging by the number of Chinese working tech in the USA, they have already acquired that.
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#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is not my experience, owning one and having owned another. Foreigners can own outright or have a stake in multiple types of organizations, either directly or indirectly, though not all (certain protected sensitive industries such as media, finance, etc.). I suppose this is perhaps a misconception based upon some kind of isolated incidence in which a domestic Chinese registered company had issues writing a foreig…
This is simply not true. Many foreigners have been scammed by this, working for a Chinese startup on the promise of equity, and then being eventually told it is impossible because the government won’t allow it. See: https://www.chinalawblog.com/2016/09/the-china-stock-option-... . If you are a foreigner working for a domestic startup, you simply aren’t allowed to have equity. If the company is already listed or is a…
OK so it seems you are conflating "people have been scammed by being offered stock options in vehicles that didn't legally have any [to offer them particularly]" with "foreigners can't own part of Chinese companies". There's a big difference.
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#105I'm disappointed to know that YC has drank the cool-aid on China. Once you invest significantly in China, you quickly find yourselves beholden to the whims of the CCP. And for what? Such privileges as building their dystopian techno-autocracy for them? I don't see any signs in this statement that you are going into this with your eyes open to either the difficulties this will cause down the line, nor the morally "que…
Here's to the next-generation YC-backed censorship tools!
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#106I'm disappointed to know that YC has drank the cool-aid on China. Once you invest significantly in China, you quickly find yourselves beholden to the whims of the CCP. And for what? Such privileges as building their dystopian techno-autocracy for them? I don't see any signs in this statement that you are going into this with your eyes open to either the difficulties this will cause down the line, nor the morally "que…
China is the future though. As scary as that is, it’s still reasonable to invest in Chinese tech, at least if your plan is to make money. I don’t think westerners in general realize how advanced China is becoming. Being from Europe, visiting China is like stepping into a sci-fI novel. Not a happy one, mind you, but it’s becoming impossible to ignore.
I'm curious what will happen to China's economy after another major economic crisis. Especially if it happens in say 10 years, by then robot manufacturing should be much more advanced and many western companies may opt to quit China and go the robot route.
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#107How does this square with https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16918480 ?
BTW, that's a link to a discussion of the NYTimes article "Wanted at Chinese Startups: Attractive Women to Ease Coders’ Stress". Likewise, isn't Hollywood the place with Harvey Weinstein? Must be purely evil. No, China is big and intellectually diverse. Many young idealists who deserve to be catalyzed. Source: Lived there 2011-2016.
Most people commenting on these China posts have a superficial, at best, understanding of China.
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#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
Both of the articles references say "You should know" The Katy Perry article says there was no official reason given or confirmation but: >But the Global Times, a state-run tabloid, chimed in, saying that if it was true "they had brought it on themselves". It further references that Katy Perry wore a flower dress, an Anti-China symbol, while giving a concert in Taiwan, and that she "draped Taiwan's flag at the concer…
No, I don't think that China is an omnipotent censor that's going to ban you for an odd comment on HN. In the same way you can be gay, go to the most vile anti-LGBT places in the world and have a blast. Who cares? The point of criticism is you want to get heard.
Thanks. (I don't want to address the analogy you just made because this thread is already very political without expanding its breadth.)
I appreciate the response and opinion.
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#109Very exciting news! I hope YC will help Chinese startups become global. My biggest problem with Silicon Valley is its ideological uniformity and the increasing willingness to use their companies/products as vehicles to push their ideologies. China would be in an excellent position to address the part of the Western market that is increasingly alienated by this push. They can build SV tech clones for the local market,…
What ideologies do you mean exactly?
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#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
It seems very fashionable to pull out moral equivalency every time China's autocracy and misbehavior is mentioned. Simple experiment: 1. Walk down Pennsylvania Avenue with a sign that says "Trump is a pussy grabber who should be impeached". 2. Go to Tiananmen Square and hold up a poster-sized picture from the 1989 massacre. See how equivalent the governments are then. (As an aside... if I was employed by the Chinese…
You can make an exact comparison. Not too terribly long ago I saw protests holding up poster sized pictures of prisoner abuse from Abu Gharib and Guantanamo Bay, which is roughly like holding up a poster-sized picture from the 1989 massacre. Nothing happened to these people in spite of the fact that these pictures are deeply embarrassing to the US government and intensely inflammatory in regions of the world where we…
> That's part of what "the rule of law" actually means. In a nation with the rule of law, the law applies objectively to everyone: crooks, politicians, and yes even do-gooders.
Ha.