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Re: Startup School Beijing

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America has been making children afraid of blue skies with its murder drones for the past 15 years. If evil was an obstacle we wouldn’t be able to use American tech either. I’m not a fan of China and I’m certainly weary of their government spying through their tech, but I’m not really a fan of the NSA being able to read my emails either. Obviously America is the lesser evil, and it’s unfortunate that power is shiftin…

How exactly are uninteded civil casualties in military operations comparable to systemic and deliberate jailing and killing of innocent people? This is very low grade whataboutism.

"uninteded civil casualties"

This is how Americans justify destroying three countries (Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan) and millions of lives.

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Very exciting news! I hope YC will help Chinese startups become global. My biggest problem with Silicon Valley is its ideological uniformity and the increasing willingness to use their companies/products as vehicles to push their ideologies. China would be in an excellent position to address the part of the Western market that is increasingly alienated by this push. They can build SV tech clones for the local market,…

>ideologically more neutral I hardly feel like the global market will accept Chinese alternatives as being "ideologically neutral" in any sense of the phrase.

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This is not my experience, owning one and having owned another. Foreigners can own outright or have a stake in multiple types of organizations, either directly or indirectly, though not all (certain protected sensitive industries such as media, finance, etc.). I suppose this is perhaps a misconception based upon some kind of isolated incidence in which a domestic Chinese registered company had issues writing a foreig…

This is simply not true. Many foreigners have been scammed by this, working for a Chinese startup on the promise of equity, and then being eventually told it is impossible because the government won’t allow it. See: https://www.chinalawblog.com/2016/09/the-china-stock-option-... . If you are a foreigner working for a domestic startup, you simply aren’t allowed to have equity. If the company is already listed or is a…

Yes, no company can offer options if they are not public, without any exceptions as I know.

Any promise of an option through a proxy subsidiary, variable interest entity for a non listed company is not legal under the republic's law.

On other hand, a right-away stock transfer is fully legit.

If they sell a part of the stock to a listing aggregation vessel, you can have a part of this vessel's share.

Though, I keep myself a kilometer away from any financial scheme in China, and advise you do the same.

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Very exciting news! I hope YC will help Chinese startups become global. My biggest problem with Silicon Valley is its ideological uniformity and the increasing willingness to use their companies/products as vehicles to push their ideologies. China would be in an excellent position to address the part of the Western market that is increasingly alienated by this push. They can build SV tech clones for the local market,…

    I hope YC will help Chinese startups become global.
Why would you want that? As long as the chinese goverment prevent foreign companies to buy chinese companies no one should be happy about chinese startups going global. The chinese goverment is highly corrupt and only supports actions which benefits the chinese. That's why there are so many "joint ventures".

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Please explain how Chelsea Manning is a more appropriate example. GP is literally comparing EXACT same thing. Protest against the president at a popular location in each country. I fail to see how this is an unfair comparison.

I think you misread it. >Go to Tiananmen Square and hold up a poster-sized picture from the 1989 massacre.

Fine, make the poster say Deng Xiao Ping ordered the army to shoot the protestors at Tiananmen Square.

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I'm disappointed to know that YC has drank the cool-aid on China. Once you invest significantly in China, you quickly find yourselves beholden to the whims of the CCP. And for what? Such privileges as building their dystopian techno-autocracy for them? I don't see any signs in this statement that you are going into this with your eyes open to either the difficulties this will cause down the line, nor the morally "que…

What if this is just a way for American companies to acquire Chinese tech or talent?

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The Chinese example you mention is more akin to Chelsea Manning and we all know how that worked out.

Please explain how Chelsea Manning is a more appropriate example. GP is literally comparing EXACT same thing. Protest against the president at a popular location in each country. I fail to see how this is an unfair comparison.

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It seems very fashionable to pull out moral equivalency every time China's autocracy and misbehavior is mentioned. Simple experiment: 1. Walk down Pennsylvania Avenue with a sign that says "Trump is a pussy grabber who should be impeached". 2. Go to Tiananmen Square and hold up a poster-sized picture from the 1989 massacre. See how equivalent the governments are then. (As an aside... if I was employed by the Chinese…

The Chinese example you mention is more akin to Chelsea Manning and we all know how that worked out.

I'm unclear what you're saying regarding Ms. Manning.

Though if you want to update my two examples to use a protest poster for/against her, I don't think the point changes.

Unless you mean that she faced legal consequences for her actions?

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False. Examples: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-42053790 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/22/australian-cri... Be notable or persistent enough and it'll get you banned.

Both of the articles references say "You should know" The Katy Perry article says there was no official reason given or confirmation but: >But the Global Times, a state-run tabloid, chimed in, saying that if it was true "they had brought it on themselves". It further references that Katy Perry wore a flower dress, an Anti-China symbol, while giving a concert in Taiwan, and that she "draped Taiwan's flag at the concer…

No, I don't think that China is an omnipotent censor that's going to ban you for an odd comment on HN. In the same way you can be gay, go to the most vile anti-LGBT places in the world and have a blast. Who cares? The point of criticism is you want to get heard.
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