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A rundown of the new Gmail

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Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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post #4

It looks like the good things of Inbox are now in Gmail. That would explain the lack of updates on the Inbox iOS App (which still doesn't have proper iPhone X support)?

> It looks like the good things of Inbox are now in Gmail.

The feature I use most in Inbox is the quick "mark done" which removes the mail from sight but allows searching for it later.

The automatic bundling is not bad but not terribly useful.

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Seems awesome! I'll be switching back once they implement the automatic travel bundle. I've gotten used to it a lot and it's been so helpful. I travel pretty regularly, often with more complex trips than single round trip flight + 1 hotel, their bundling has been super helpful.

I also use it as my travel calendar. Gives me a better view of my coming travel than a calendar.

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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post #201
post #4

It looks like the good things of Inbox are now in Gmail. That would explain the lack of updates on the Inbox iOS App (which still doesn't have proper iPhone X support)?

> It looks like the good things of Inbox are now in Gmail. The feature I use most in Inbox is the quick "mark done" which removes the mail from sight but allows searching for it later. The automatic bundling is not bad but not terribly useful.

I find it so strange that people don't find the bundling useful, because to me it's mind-boggling powerful.

Being able to open a custom bundle of Git commits from yesterday, scan them, then archive them all in a single click is huge! Being able to click on a bundle created for my upcoming trip and see all my emails for that trip there (hotel, flights, etc...) is such a time saver. Then being able to snooze those bundles to another date/time is also huge.

I actually want them to expand it more, allow me to bundle multiple emails that I choose together! If I get 3 separate emails about something I need to do next week, I want to be able to make an ad-hoc bundle for those 3, then snooze them all to another time together.

I can absolutely see how it's not for everyone, and I don't want anyone to think i'm implying that it's wrong to not want it, but i'm just amazed that there is such a varied response to them!

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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post #2

ha - that blog post is 26MB large and makes my laptop cry

The Related Articles carousel at the bottom is responsible for a lot of that. In at least one of the tiles, it's backing an 82x45 thumbnail with a 2800x1556 PNG. The PNG is 6 MB, which works out to over 1.5 KB per pixel. Annotated screenshot at https://twitter.com/callahad/status/989119555711782917

What's worse, it's clear the CMS knows that the image is going to be displayed as a small thumbnail: the markup uses the picture tag and srcset attribute to provide alternative images, indicating that they'll be around 120 or 240 pixels wide, depending on device DPI.

...and yet, the actual file it serves is the same, full-resolution PNG in all cases.

This is a problem that the CMS should be solving.

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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post #19

"Finally, a new confidential mode allows you to remove the option to forward, copy, download or print messages—useful for when you have to send sensitive information via email like a tax return or your social security number. You can also make a message expire after a set period of time to help you stay in control of your information." No, thanks. I like my e-mail archive under my own control.

To me, it violates the principle of email. It's a static thing that cannot be edited, excepted deleted by the recipient.

This new "remotely deletable" thing must be essentially a link to a Google controlled page in the form of an email.

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same, with two accounts. Australia here, if that makes any difference. Clearly it's a staggered rollout thing that hasn't fully taken effect. (Which is stupid, when you do this kind of thing at scale you pick an exact time to go "live", add some code that enables the flag at some point after that exact moment in time, then do a rollout early enough that all the machines in the cluster are updated with that code by th…

This is definitely deliberate, upgrading everybody (almost) at once could work, but would have been a huge risk at their scale. You want to roll out big features like that incrementally so that you can monitor the load, catch any issues early, and give yourself a chance to revert if things go wrong without pissing off the whole world.

Fair point.

I should have been more clear, woops. I was referring to the "Try the beta" feature showing up in the gear/cog menu.

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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post #87

The most exciting news here is that they're iterating on Gmail again. It was clear that Gmail was stagnating for a while as they were investing in Inbox. It's unfortunate that Inbox didn't take off, but now that it looks like they're putting the effort behind Gmail proper, we'll be seeing continual updates and improvements. In just the past 6 months we've seen native Gmail add-ons (that work across web and mobile) an…

I wish they'd just fix Gmail sync between tabs. Sending a reply to a message you've already replied to (because the first reply didn't show up in the tab) is embarrasing.

That seems like a non-problem. You can easily prevent it by having only one Gmail tab open at a time.

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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Nice features.

That being said the “do more without leaving the inbox” seems like workarounds to the fact that Gmail lacks a 3 pane interface.

A 3 pane interface makes much of the deeper features Gmail is adding on message hover redundant. One could argue that in a 3 pane interface you need to click the message you are interested in to get access to advanced actions but in Gmail you don’t. And while this is true, I’d say the need to hover over the message actually makes it harder. The hover needs to be maintained while in the 3 pane interface once you click you don’t need to maintain your mouse position. And you have far more context, since the entire email is displayed while still showing you all your other messages and not yanking you out of the inbox.

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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post #2

ha - that blog post is 26MB large and makes my laptop cry

Well, and the page itself is just hideously unusable. 1/3 of the space is covered with noise begging me to leave the article I'm trying to read. The top 1/3 is 80% blank space that keeps popping up and going away as I scroll, making the simple act of scrolling through an article feel unpredictable, as I'm never sure if I'm even going to be able to see the entire animation they want me to look at. Overall the experien…

They somehow made the blog post more painful to read than a CNN article. That's talent right there.

Re: A rundown of the new Gmail

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post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you actually DRM a video so that the OS won't let it be screenshotted? I usually use the snipping tool for Windows screenshots, does DRM stop that working somehow?

Try Netflix with Microsoft Edge and try to take a screenshot. Only subtitles will be visible.

Abuse of proprietary power at it's finest.
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