I'm not optimistic about this at all. The same metrics for success just don't apply in China. All the elements necessary for success in the US could be there, but in China the startup may get red-taped and legislated out of existence in favor of a basically identical entity with better connections to the Satanic squid in charge of the country. I predict a rapid demise for this project, sorry to say. Talented Chinese entrepreneurs, please make your way out of the country as soon as you can.
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#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why lol?
Not sure what the parent comment meant but maybe because software jobs will start to move to lower earning locations. I've been wondering about this. Manufacturing has largely moved off shore over the last 40 years but software seems much easier to move. Could the whole industry disappear from the first world at a much faster rate?
> Could the whole industry disappear from the first world at a much faster rate?
No. Because any country dominating the software industry will, almost by defintion, be “first world”.
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#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why lol?
Not sure what the parent comment meant but maybe because software jobs will start to move to lower earning locations. I've been wondering about this. Manufacturing has largely moved off shore over the last 40 years but software seems much easier to move. Could the whole industry disappear from the first world at a much faster rate?
I don't think so, we was discussing about this 15 years ago when Indian developers (that earns a way less than the Chinese one) was coming in the market taking the jobs.
For you information, the salary for a good senior software developer in China is higher than the one paid in many 'first world' European countries and in few cases overlap the salary that you can get in UK.
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#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why lol?
Not sure what the parent comment meant but maybe because software jobs will start to move to lower earning locations. I've been wondering about this. Manufacturing has largely moved off shore over the last 40 years but software seems much easier to move. Could the whole industry disappear from the first world at a much faster rate?
We keep hearing this since late 1990s, when all programming was supposed to move to India. Not much change 20 years after.
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why lol?
Not sure what the parent comment meant but maybe because software jobs will start to move to lower earning locations. I've been wondering about this. Manufacturing has largely moved off shore over the last 40 years but software seems much easier to move. Could the whole industry disappear from the first world at a much faster rate?
I dont think an engineer in China is cheaper than in Europe. Thats not my experience.. At least in the big cities, they cost more or less the same as in Europe.
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#17They need compete with www.sinovationventures.com.'Sinovation Ventures' has quite a few similarities to YC, for example:The founders like to support each other, etc
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#18Out of all places? Why??? And... >Saturday, May 19, 2018 (5 月19 日，周六) >Tsinghua University （清华大学) Beijing, China （中国北京) This is just... they could've just went for the central committee party school if they wanted to get high profile handshakes that much
>Out of all places? Why???
"Since China is the fastest growing tech ecosystem in the world and a massive center of new innovations - we want to meet more founders from China!"
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not sure what the parent comment meant but maybe because software jobs will start to move to lower earning locations. I've been wondering about this. Manufacturing has largely moved off shore over the last 40 years but software seems much easier to move. Could the whole industry disappear from the first world at a much faster rate?
I dont think an engineer in China is cheaper than in Europe. Thats not my experience.. At least in the big cities, they cost more or less the same as in Europe.
A Friend of mine owns a business and hired a guy in China full time. Works out to be ~40k usd/yr. His work is really good. If you’re going via a business to get outsourced work you’re just getting ripped off imo.
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why lol?
Not sure what the parent comment meant but maybe because software jobs will start to move to lower earning locations. I've been wondering about this. Manufacturing has largely moved off shore over the last 40 years but software seems much easier to move. Could the whole industry disappear from the first world at a much faster rate?
>Not sure what the parent comment meant but maybe because software jobs will start to move to lower earning locations. I've been wondering about this. Manufacturing has largely moved off shore over the last 40 years but software seems much easier to move. Could the whole industry disappear from the first world at a much faster rate?
Well, this has largely happened. And no, if you think that has happened 15 years ago, it isn't.
Outsourcing shops that do work for first tier dotcoms today are a head above anything you saw back 15 years ago with "will code for food" sweatshops.
What is happening is that these are not the "code for food" shops that are displacing Western workforce, but companies that genuinely do "real stuff" and pull high class projects better than their Western clients can even hope to do.
They get that not because they are cheaper, but because they are better than SV at large.
The reason why Western markets are not in firm grips of Asian IT giants yet, but in Facebook/Amazon/Google is not the influence of market forces. Otherwise, they would've been steamrolled long ago.